Adding Troyer Tunnel to T14 house

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Adding Troyer Tunnel to T14 house

Postby sdsteil-IA » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:41 pm

All,

I have seen the Troyer Tunnel attached to the T14 house in two different ways 1) doors only and 2)doors and sides. Can anyone provide me with the pros/cons for either approach? Do the martins care either way?

I could see that having the tunnel mounted on the side would help prevent an owl from getting to the martins because of the 90 degree bend.

I also would like to know if there is anything I need to be aware during the installation of the tunnels.

Thanks for the inputs.

Cheers David
2018 - Still waiting
2012-2015 - 0 nesting pairs
2011 - Bought 18 acre farm with a 1 acre pond
2008-2010 – 0 nesting pairs
2007 – 1 nesting pair. Female died trying to lay 4th egg
2002 - 2006. 0 nesting pairs

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Re: Adding Troyer Tunnel to T14 house

Postby Dale D » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:00 pm

Either way you go side or door mount I would suggest a 3" hole where you mount your tunnel. ¼" hole in each corner of the tunnel and attach with nylon push pins. I have done Clinger Tunnels this way for years and they hold well. This is a T-10 I built last season with side mount Clinger tunnels. The nesting areas are 12" deep and didn't need more depth so I opted for side mount for better protection.
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Re: Adding Troyer Tunnel to T14 house

Postby bwenger » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:20 pm

David,

Alternating the tunnels from the end to the side may help with some porch dominance, but I haven't noticed much of that. Early on in the season a male may guard several entrances, but after weeks of fighting off other males, they seem to usually allow other pairs to nest.

I like the Troyer tunnels since they have the built in trap. I use that for trapping Sparrows and starlings, and also for trapping banded martins in case I can not read the numbers with a spotting scope.

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Re: Adding Troyer Tunnel to T14 house

Postby sugarcreek » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:46 pm

Just talked with Adam Troyer from Troyer's bird Paradise over in PA. They highly recommended alternating them from side to front , they have most of their T14's houses converted over to the tunnels and there experience is that the martins love the tunnel add on to their houses.
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Re: Adding Troyer Tunnel to T14 house

Postby sdsteil-IA » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:27 pm

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I took down my T-14 house on Sunday and will modify it over the winter. I also moved my T-14 pole closer to our house. It was about 75 feet from the corn crib and I moved it so it is about 50 feet from the house. It was originally about 150 feet from the house. We finally cut down a big tree that was about half dead that was close to our house. With the tree removed this will allow me to move the PM poles closer to the house. I was able to move one of my gourd racks to about 40 feet from the house.

We had a lot of martin visitors this year. I even had two males fighting over a female and one of the gourds. I think the wining male drove off the potential nesting pair because I had no luck this year. The PM visitors were really checking out the gourd rack and the T-14 house this year. I think because the T-14 house was so far away from our house that probably had an impact on why I did not get any nesting pairs this year.

I hope next year will be my year for attracting my first nesting pair. I have been at this a very long time. But I keep at it because I got the PM bug when I was a teenager. Had a PM site close to my house when I was growing up and I really enjoyed watching them.

Cheers David
2018 - Still waiting
2012-2015 - 0 nesting pairs
2011 - Bought 18 acre farm with a 1 acre pond
2008-2010 – 0 nesting pairs
2007 – 1 nesting pair. Female died trying to lay 4th egg
2002 - 2006. 0 nesting pairs

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Re: Adding Troyer Tunnel to T14 house

Postby Dave Reynolds » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:37 pm

David ..... Sounds like you are doing everything right.. So keep at it... And good Luck in 2019..

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Re: Adding Troyer Tunnel to T14 house

Postby Anthony Neira » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:52 pm

Hey David, Great that you are Hanging in there ! :grin: Have you ever considered a "Decoy House " ? Just a BOX painted white with 2 levels of " Painted On" Openings & 4 to 6 PM Decoys around it on a Single Pole away from your T-14 ? Just like people, Jealously & Greed play a big part in the PM world ! :grin: :wink:
PMCA Member, 8 Trio 6 Room Houses, 12 Troyer Horizontals + Tunnels, 2 Troyer Verticals, & 2 S&K Bo 11"s WITH Troyer Tunnels !! 4 MPPs, For 2017 Season !! :grin: Going to see about installing EXTRA Troyer Horz. UNDER Each Trio House & ABOVE Gourd Rack !! :grin: :wink: Started in 1992 from Older '50-'60s Colonies.

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Re: Adding Troyer Tunnel to T14 house

Postby sdsteil-IA » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:45 pm

Anthony,

I will have to try that. I have a Grandpa or a Grandma House that I can put on a move able pool. I also have about 6 decoys, some plastic and others that I have carved, that I can put on it. Normally, I spread my decoys around to the different poles; but I never thought of putting them on one house.

I will try anything.

This year (in the spring) I also updated my sound system. I got rid of my 2 old horn speakers and old amplifier and installed 4 new horn speakers and amp. The new audio equipment lets me increase the volume, plus I get a better 360 degree coverage of sound. I think this is why I had more visitors this year than previous years.

Thanks for the inputs.

Cheers David
2018 - Still waiting
2012-2015 - 0 nesting pairs
2011 - Bought 18 acre farm with a 1 acre pond
2008-2010 – 0 nesting pairs
2007 – 1 nesting pair. Female died trying to lay 4th egg
2002 - 2006. 0 nesting pairs


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