Think I have decided to build another T14

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flyin-lowe
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:38 pm

Not sure on the chain but I am guessing the pad lock is a safety to put on your winch so no kids mess with it and drop a house on themselves. I always bought my steel cable at Lowes so I don't know what other retailers are out there.

As for posting photos they need to be sized down. The easiest way for me currently (windows machine) is to right click on a photo and hit "edit". This will open the picture in Microsoft Paint. When it opens in Paint there is a button that says "re size". Once you click that it gives you the option to resize by either percentage or pixels. Select pixels and then make sure the highest number is 400. Once both sides of the photo are 400 pixels or smaller you can then add them as an attachment into your thread. Just hit the attachment button below and then find the picture.

Back in the day photobucket allowed you to embed a link that would put the picture in but now you have to pay for that.....
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Rodger Drye
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Rodger Drye » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:48 pm

Flyin-Lowe.
Thank you for all the information. Now I need to get started with all the work I have to do.
Thanks Again,
Rodger
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flyin-lowe
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:48 pm

I got my T14 in the air today. My pole is 20 foot long (4 foot in the ground) so 16 feet to the top. I am going to cut down that small maple tree in the background and I also have some shrubby bushes of some type that I am going to take down. In the future I will add brackets and 4 gourds to the bottom of this house. I have them for the other T14 just haven't hung the gourds yet.

Here is a picture of the new T14.
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2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

flyin-lowe
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:49 pm

Here is all of my housing currently. (Minus gourds under my original T14.
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2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

flyin-lowe
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:50 pm

This shows how I mounted my winch, similar to what I used on my last one which has worked fine.
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2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Rodger Drye
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Rodger Drye » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:27 pm

Hey flyin-Lowe,
Photos of your T-14’s and your site look great.! You got it going on.! How many cavities do you have for your bird’s.?
Just a suggestion, a Worm Gear winch would work better for you than that cranking one. Then you would be able to raise and lower with a Hand Drill. Andrew Troyer has the winch with hex drive for about $80.00. It’s so much easier and enables you to do faster nest checks, with little effort. Well worth the money.
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flyin-lowe
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:34 pm

Ill have a total of 48 cavities this year. The gourd rack holds 16 and the 2 T 14's. I also have a bracket to hold 4 extra gourds under my original T14. I might look into the worm gear winch next time I get one. I had good luck with my original brake winch so I just ordered another one of those. Since the price is not much more for the worm gear I might be interested in future.
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Rodger Drye
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Rodger Drye » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:48 pm

Yeah, I don’t think you’ll be disapointed in the Worm Gear Winch. It is in itself a Brake Winch. It activates when you stop or start pulling the trigger on the Drill. I’ll have seven (7) when I get my T-14 installed. Wouldn’t think of having anything else.
The ease and convenience makes it superior IMO to anything else out there.
If I had just 1 or 2 Racks might just stay with the Crank type. But 3 or more would definitely go with the Worm Gear.!! Also wouldn’t have to Lock your Winch to the pole. The Worm Gear Winch has a 5/8” Hex Drive and not many people go around with a 5/8” socket in their pocket.
I’ve got 120 cavities, and when I get my T-14 and Nitro D Racks up and working I’ll have 174.
Good Luck with your Bird’s and everything you do for them.!
Rodger :)
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flyin-lowe
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:02 pm

I don't remember exactly but when I got this winch it was like 67.00 on Amazon, maybe 77.00 (It's and D&L brake winch) at the time their worm gear winches were around $100.00 or $110.00. Enough of a difference that I told my self I could put up with a hand crank once a week and put the extra money towards the cable. I have a jeep and they make a hoist to lift the hard top off for summer storage. You can get hand crank or electric for a couple hundred dollars more. I am sure some people use them more often but I raise and lower it once a year, I can put up with the extra minute of hand cranking each year......
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Rodger Drye
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Rodger Drye » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:54 pm

It was 2014 when I installed my first Worm Gear Winches. E-trailer had one a Model DL 11011 for $80.95. Dutton - Lainson had what looked like the same winch Model DL 11011 with Hex Drive rated at 2000lbs. For $85.95.
Dutton - Lainson also had another Model WG -1500, rated at 1500lbs. For $80.95.
My older Racks that I welded and fabricated myself weighed approx. 200 lbs. I figured the $80.00 one would work o.k.
These Racks turned out to be my heaviest. However, I still ordered 4 more winches.
Knowing I would eventually have 7 Racks in total I ordered another Worm Gear from Andrew Troyer. It to turned out to be a Dutton - Lainson Model DL 11011. Only difference was the paint job, all the WG’s from D-L were Copper Orange Peal and the one I got from Andrew was Black. Other than that Identical.
These Winches are really nice. They’re Powder Coated and look like the day I put them up even though I keep them out in the weather all year long.
I’m in the process of R & R Wire Rope Cable on all my Racks that have Galvanized. I will replace them with 1/4” Type 316 Stainless Steel Wire Rope crimped with Copper Swage Sleeves and Stainless Thimble. These Galvanized cables are starting to show a lot of Rust. My Stainless Steel will never show any Rust. Not saying my Galvanized cable would or could become compromised, but I wish I had gone with all Stainless Steel in the 1st place.
Oh well Live and Learn.
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sssSMOKING
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Martin Colony History: 2012 > Several Lookers,
2013 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 fledged
2014 > 4 nesting pairs, 15 Fledged
2015 > 5 nesting pairs, 23 Fledged
2016 > 9 nesting pairs, 25 Fledged
2017 > 12 nesting pairs, 43 Fledged
2018 > 15 nesting pairs, 39 Fledged

Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby sssSMOKING » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:33 am

It has been sow long since I bought the brake winch that I use for my current T-14. It is a Dutton-Laison and has worked fine for many years. I see they have 600 lbs, 800, 1200, 2500. I know the T14 will weigh less then 150 pounds or so, but for some reason I was thinking it was recommended to get a higher rated winch. I am not an engineer, is there a reason I would need one with a rating over 600 lbs?
May be to late but this is the winch I picked up a couple of years ago.
https://www.dutton-lainson.com/proddeta ... prod=11001
Does a great job.
Richard
2012 > Several Lookers
2013 - 4 pair, 14 fledged
2014 - 5 pair, 15 Fledged (House Wren Destroyed Eggs, 5th pair)

flyin-lowe
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:21 am

Observed my first ASY male this morning around 10:00 am. Initial instinct it that it is one of mine. My housing was all lowered and he set within 10 feet of me while I raised it and was not spooked at all by my presence. Of course the tree swallows are now flocking over the open gourds. I opened a few gourds and some cavities on my T14 to give him some options assuming he belong here. Hopefully some more start to flood in to help him combat the TS...
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Steve joubert
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Making adjustments

Postby Steve joubert » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:49 am

Thanks for advice, I have other areas in yard , but no close to home as I’d like, was standing on deck when I took picture. Looking for few gourds to hand and trim trees a bit more.

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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby BumBee » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:20 pm

Flyin-Lowe,
What is the cavity size of the T14? Width? Depth? and Height?


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