Hopefully my season is starting.

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flyin-lowe
Posts: 2860
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

This past Saturday I spotted an ASY male that stayed around for about 5 minutes. I really got my hopes up at first but after he flew off and never returned I thought he might just be passing through. I got home from work this evening and I have an ASY male and female checking out cavities. I know from past experience getting at least ASY pair can really draw in more pair. I opened half a dozen cavities some gourds an a few in the T14 to see what they want. Really hoping these are two from the SY's I had last year and not just looking for a place to spend the night tonight. Time will tell.....
I also wouldn't be surprised at all if the one today is the same one that was here Saturday. At my old colony it was very common for the first returning martins to swing by one day and then disappear for 3-4 days and then come back to stay. I observed this every year after my first year.
2020 47 of 52 cavities with nest (5/29)(HOSP Count 7)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
Dave Reynolds
Posts: 1853
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2018 Success at my Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2019 Success at my home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".

Flyin-Lowe........ :grin: Sounds great,, Hope they stay around a bit longer... good luck ..

Dave
Home Site “Little Hocking, Ohio”
2010 / 2018 -- Lots of Visitors
2019 — First pair, 5 Eggs, 5 hatched, 5 fledged. :wink:
2020 — They Showed up on March 28 for another year... :wink:

Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”
2018 -- 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 38 Hatched and 36 Fledged :wink:
2019 — 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 99 Hatched and 97 Fledged. :wink:
2020 — They showed up on April 24 for another year... :wink:

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flyin-lowe
Posts: 2860
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Woke up this morning, no sign of the female right now but there is another ASY male that is here. Both males are in and out of cavities. The weather is till below average for this time of year but they are sustainable temps in the 50's and 60's for highs each day so they should be good.
2020 47 of 52 cavities with nest (5/29)(HOSP Count 7)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
C.C.Martins
Posts: 802
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged.
2018-18 pair. 85 fledged.
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020:?
Home colony: 17 natural gourds, one 6 compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony Oso bay preserve: 12 gourds: excluder, troyer horizontal, super gourds with tunnels. 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: ?
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Great news! Good luck, hope they stay and raise your colony!
Tom
Tom

2016- two visitors
2017- 5 pair 15 Fledged
2018-18 pairs 85 Fledged
2019-17 pair 81 fledged
2020:

Satellite location: oso bay preserve 12 gourds, modified trio
2019: Visitors
2020: hopeful!!!
Doug Martin - PA
Posts: 1919
Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:47 am
Location: Pennsylvania/Fombell
Martin Colony History: First pair in 2009 after 28 years of trying. 3 pairs 2010, 17 pairs 2011 and 35-45 pairs since. Many additional colonies are now springing up around mine in an area once completely void of Martins. I offer 50 compartments at my site consisting of primarily Excluder II gourds on Gemini racks. Also a wooden T-14. I utilize electric fence type predator guards on the base of the poles. Supplemental feeding is crucial in maintaining my colony. I platform feed throughout the season as needed. My site tends to be a stop over point for additional birds as they migrate further north.

Good for You!

Let the season begin! At least you have something to watch now.

Doug
Supplemental feeding plays a major role in western Pennsylvania. Finally got my 1st pair in 2009 after 28 years of effort. 3 pairs in 2010. 17 pairs in 2011. 35 pairs and 150 young in 2012 & 2013. Plus a new 22 pair colony right down the road from me.
Lizzie
Posts: 114
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:01 pm
Location: North Central Tx

Best of good wishes for you, Flyin'-low! :mrgreen:
flyin-lowe
Posts: 2860
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

It's been an up and down couple of weeks. One ASY male has been here every morning but shortly after sun rise he was flying off not to be seen again until the following morning. I wasn't sure if he was staying here or just hanging out in the mornings. The female was here for 1 day and took off. This weekend the ASY male started hanging around most of the day and another ASY male showed up. Yesterday an ASY female was visiting and she has been back again this morning. I am hoping some SY's start getting here soon before the ASY males I have get lured away somewhere else.
Also for the first time ever I have a starling that was able to breach and SREH (Conley II on TH gourd). The porch on that gourd was slightly warped so I thought that was the problem. I replaced that gourd with another and it went right in that one as well. Must just be smaller then most.
2020 47 of 52 cavities with nest (5/29)(HOSP Count 7)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 2860
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Things picked up this week. I have had 2 ASY females and 3-4 ASY males sticking around this week. This morning I had 4 ASY females and 4 ASY males. They haven't paired up and claimed cavities yet but they are working it out. Not sure if the 2 extra females I have this morning are here for good or if they are just passing through. Hopefully they like this place....
2020 47 of 52 cavities with nest (5/29)(HOSP Count 7)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
C.C.Martins
Posts: 802
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged.
2018-18 pair. 85 fledged.
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020:?
Home colony: 17 natural gourds, one 6 compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony Oso bay preserve: 12 gourds: excluder, troyer horizontal, super gourds with tunnels. 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: ?
PMCA member

I think they like the place. The ASY males are a big draw for those females. That's fantastic.
Tom

2016- two visitors
2017- 5 pair 15 Fledged
2018-18 pairs 85 Fledged
2019-17 pair 81 fledged
2020:

Satellite location: oso bay preserve 12 gourds, modified trio
2019: Visitors
2020: hopeful!!!
-=DKC=-
Posts: 356
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:26 pm
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Martin Colony History: ................
2019: 11 pairs
2018: 11 pairs - 43 fledged
2017: 4 pairs - 17 fledged

flyin-lowe wrote:Things picked up this week. I have had 2 ASY females and 3-4 ASY males sticking around this week. This morning I had 4 ASY females and 4 ASY males. They haven't paired up and claimed cavities yet but they are working it out. Not sure if the 2 extra females I have this morning are here for good or if they are just passing through. Hopefully they like this place....
That is awesome. Congratulations. :grin:
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on suckin' till you do succeed." - Curly Howard
flyin-lowe
Posts: 2860
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Nest building started this weekend. I have 4 ASY pair for sure now and another pair was here some yesterday and today. Two weeks ago or so I was worried because I had a lone ASY male sitting here and no females. Either my females from last year were later getting back or I have drawn some ASY's in from somewhere else, I suspect the latter. I only had 5 SY females here last year, the odds that they all have made it back seems slim, but who knows. Either way I am thrilled to finally have ASY's at my site. If this colony grows at the same rate as my last one (a few miles away) it won't be too long to get a good size colony built back up. I have a neighbor about 3 miles away who has been trying and had a few SY's over the past several years. I hope to get built up and start fledging a large number, hopefully I can get him going as well.
2020 47 of 52 cavities with nest (5/29)(HOSP Count 7)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
Mitch Booth
Posts: 478
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 -

Flyin-Lowe,

Sounds good! I had a lone ASY male show up April 28 and within 1 week (the following Saturday) I have 3 ASY males and 2 SY and 1 ASY females which appear to be mates now. One week can make a huge difference!! I've only seen 1 SY-male and he was here and gone and haven't seen him since. I'm hoping I get get some SY pairs towards the middle of May. I think this will finally be my year to get me permanently off the Wanna-Be List!

Now I'm still playing the Dawnsong 24/7. Do you think I should turn it off or is there any harm in letting it play through the middle of June?

Mitch
2020 -
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
flyin-lowe
Posts: 2860
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

I was always a believer in turning the dawn song off once I had any martins staying. They will do a better job then the song any day. Plus from time to time I have seen it cause confusion for the martins. I had one pair that kept flying down and bumping into my CD player. One year I had a raccoon or something attack my player and drag it out into the yard. I don't see a benefit it playing it if yo have martins at your location.

On a side note I did a quick nest check today while inserting a nest box trap to get rid of a pair of sparrows (they are taken care of). I have 7 nests right now, one with green leaves. I have seen an SY male around my place but haven't gotten to spend much time this past week really watching them to see if the 7 pair I currently have are all ASY's or not. I still don't think the big rush of SY's is here yet so I am hoping for a few more pair.
2020 47 of 52 cavities with nest (5/29)(HOSP Count 7)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
Mitch Booth
Posts: 478
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 -

Well I went from one lone ASY male that arrived on April 28th to two pair both ASY males with SY females in approximately one week. Tomorrow it will be three weeks since my founding male returned and I have finally turned off the Dawnsong as I've seen only one or two SY males in the last three weeks and they were isolated sightings.

Both pair are repeatedly carrying in nesting material (no green leaves yet) and spending the nights. My question is this:

When are these ASY males going to start their dawn singing in order to bring in some new talent? I can remember last year in the late May and early June I had as many as 10-12 SY birds all over the place with 3 SY males at my site the whole month of June and July that never attracted a mate.

Mitch
2020 -
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
BIOteacher012
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:19 pm
Location: Wisconsin/Montello

Hi Mitch,
Great to hear you are finally off and running with some ASY birds. So happy for you. My dad has around 12 pair so far. He talked to you a number of years ago when his pair did not return the following spring. Glad you are both finally beyond that point......fingers crossed.
As far as dawn singing, my ASY males just started singing this week, and we are in Wisconsin. Once they start bringing in green leaves, you know they are getting close to egg laying. This is usually the time to start listening for the Dawnsong. I will let my dad know that you have birds this year. I am so excited for you.
Good luck!! :wink:
BrianT
2017 38 nesting pairs, 181 fledged
2016 22 nesting pairs, 113 fledged
2015 20 nesting pairs, 91 fledged
2014 10 nesting pairs, 49 fledged
2013 4 nesting pairs, 15 fledged
2012 Lots of lookers but no nesters
Mitch Booth
Posts: 478
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 -

Brian,

It is good to hear from you!!!! I’ve talked to a few people and mentioned that I talked to their fathers (thinking of you) and they looked at me like I had 3 eyes!!! I couldn’t remember for the life of me your username!!

I hope I can get a another pair or two to give me a better chance next spring. This whole colony thing has certainly been a slow go for me!!! I won’t complain though as I’m sure some people would be thrilled with just one or two pair. I have 3 -12 gourd racks up with a T-14 and four gourds below it.

How many pair did your dad have last year?

Mitch
2020 -
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
flyin-lowe
Posts: 2860
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

I'm not sure how the SY migration is going as reporting seems to be really low in Indiana this year. Only a handful of reports, I'm guessing it's more because of people not reporting then it is a slow migration. I've been so busy with my kids baseball season that I haven't had time to study my colony to see how many SY I have.
2020 47 of 52 cavities with nest (5/29)(HOSP Count 7)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
Mitch Booth
Posts: 478
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 -

Flyin-Lowe,

I feel the same way here. 3 weeks ago a lone ASY male showed up and it seemed within a week I had two pair ASY-M/SY-F staying and spending the night. The last two weeks I really haven’t had any additional activity. A lone SY male once maybe twice but that is it. I can remember in late May last year I had 10-12 Martins circling at a time. I was really hoping for 4-6 pair this year but it appears I may have to settle for 2.

Mitch
2020 -
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
tor
Posts: 220
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm
Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: Capacity: 72 Troyers on 3 X Super-24 racks

Mitch,

I don't think you need to run a dawn song as long as you have martins staying. As mentioned, they do a much better job at dawn-singing. Don't settle for two yet! SY's are still on the hunt.
Location: Marlboro County, SC

2020: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/11 - 71 pair - 298 hatched as of last nest check.
2019: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/22 - 70 pair - 315 fledged
2018: Capacity: 70 - First Scouts: 2/18 - 60 pair - 270 fledged
2017: Capacity: 42 - First Scouts: 2/25 - 39 pair
2016: Capacity: 42 - First Scouts: 3/10 - 32 pair
2015: Capacity: 24 - First Scouts: 3/23 - 4 pair

Purple Martins Of South Carolina
2020 Season
Mitch Booth
Posts: 478
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 -

Tor,

I did turn the Dawnsong off. I have leaves In both nests w 2 eggs in one gourd. I can’t hardly imagine what you landlords with over 12 pair must feel like!!! With my past history I’m certainly glad I have 2 ASY males w mates. Hopefully the next two weeks will bring in another pair or two!

Mitch
2020 -
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
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