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shaddo
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Hello everyone! Thanks for the add admins/mods. Where does everyone who grows gourds for Martins get their seeds at and what variety of gourd? I know back in the day you could buy them out of the PMCA store but I can't seam to find them listed anymore. If memory serves me correctly the variety is "Large Bottle Gourds" ?? It's been a very long time since I grew them and been here. Think I had an account around 2000 or 2001....the place has really changed lol. Thanks in advance!
~Ray~Gingerich
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Quarry Farm gourds ..they have many different types
~Ray~ Gingerich
1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair
shaddo
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Thank you so much for the reply. I will check them out!
Chris B
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Send me a PM with your address and I'll send you seeds that make really nice shaped gourds. Caution... I grew nothing but gourds in my melon patch and the next year (last), I had a ton of volunteer gourd plants come up after tilling to where my friend didn't want to bother planting corn. Now I have a bunch of gourds and have to find a use for them. This year will be the same. Didn't hurt that I got a backhoe scoop of chicken manure for fertilizer in the garden.
2014 8 gourds, 3 pairs nested. Ended w/ 24 total
2015 24 gourds, 22 nests. Lotsa birds!
2016 24 gourds and good activity.
2017 32 SREH gourds. Great activity.
2018 40 SREH gourds. Good finish despite big storm damage. No more dangling gourds.
2019 56+ SREH gourds, all on 3/8 rods. Birds did very well.
2020 56 SREH gourds.
shaddo
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Chris B wrote:Send me a PM with your address and I'll send you seeds that make really nice shaped gourds. Caution... I grew nothing but gourds in my melon patch and the next year (last), I had a ton of volunteer gourd plants come up after tilling to where my friend didn't want to bother planting corn. Now I have a bunch of gourds and have to find a use for them. This year will be the same. Didn't hurt that I got a backhoe scoop of chicken manure for fertilizer in the garden.
That's really nice. Thank you. But I don't think I can PM? I have looked everywhere and I just don't see it. What variety are the gourd seeds?
TheSmiths
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Location: Western KY
Martin Colony History:

Tried to attract PMs since 2004; began a more ernest attempt in 2014.

2018 — 3 pairs: 1 ASY pair & 1 SY pair in the Trio; 1 SY pair in a supergourd on the gourd multi-rack.

2019 — 6 pairs

2020 — In progress

Current housing consists of two modified Trio M12Ks at 20' and a round gourd rack at 20'.

We've also provided housing for bluebirds, Carolina wrens, house wrens, Carolina chickadees, tufted titmice, great-crested flycatchers and northern flickers for ~15 years.

Shaddo, at the far right of a member's post -- under his/her avatar, name, post count, join date & location -- is "Contact" (if the person has it enabled). Chris' looks like it may be turned off. Instructions for turning it on are at the top of the forum under "Announcements" titled "PMCA's Forum personal email feature ".
Chris B
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Location: AL/Toney

Mail me a stamped padded post office envelope at:

Chris Barber
437 Will Raby Road
Toney, AL 35773

I don't use email anymore thanks to yahoo. The seeds are from gourds my late buddy Darrel developed over the years. There is not enough interest in growing nice gourds to sell them, and once a person makes gourds they will have too many seeds. PMs love the shape and the bigger the better the gourd for them, so put in the fertilizer. I put on cleanouts and porches from S&K.

Right now the early birds are picking gourds and the big natural ones are very popular.
2014 8 gourds, 3 pairs nested. Ended w/ 24 total
2015 24 gourds, 22 nests. Lotsa birds!
2016 24 gourds and good activity.
2017 32 SREH gourds. Great activity.
2018 40 SREH gourds. Good finish despite big storm damage. No more dangling gourds.
2019 56+ SREH gourds, all on 3/8 rods. Birds did very well.
2020 56 SREH gourds.
Chris B
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:10 pm
Location: AL/Toney

Since my address is already out there I will extend this offer to anyone else on the forum that wants to take a stab at growing their own gourds. You get a padded envelope, put on your address and enough postage to get it back to you with seeds, and stuff it in another envelope and mail it to me. I'll send back some of the seeds.

A little about these and who the gourds came from. My recently passed friend Daryll Annerton had been into PMs for decades. He was shown how to do them by a guy who had been doing this long before that. Daryll would segregate seeds that came from very nicely shaped gourds and use them the next year. I do the same. If you have a nice long growing season and get the soil right they make nice big thick wall gourds. There will also be smaller ones that are good for bluebirds. You get a lot of seeds from a gourd BTW.

Darryl used homemade 3" PVC tee racks with 4 gourds hanging per side, and I do the same. It works around here I suppose. Not to hard either as you only put up / take down one gourd at a time with the rack still up. I just stand on the edge of the PU truck bed and rotate the rack to reach each gourd. The birds seem to like the rack being able to rotate too.

RIP Daryll
2014 8 gourds, 3 pairs nested. Ended w/ 24 total
2015 24 gourds, 22 nests. Lotsa birds!
2016 24 gourds and good activity.
2017 32 SREH gourds. Great activity.
2018 40 SREH gourds. Good finish despite big storm damage. No more dangling gourds.
2019 56+ SREH gourds, all on 3/8 rods. Birds did very well.
2020 56 SREH gourds.
shaddo
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Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:51 pm
Location: WV

Chris B wrote:Mail me a stamped padded post office envelope at:

Chris Barber
437 Will Raby Road
Toney, AL 35773

I don't use email anymore thanks to yahoo. The seeds are from gourds my late buddy Darrel developed over the years. There is not enough interest in growing nice gourds to sell them, and once a person makes gourds they will have too many seeds. PMs love the shape and the bigger the better the gourd for them, so put in the fertilizer. I put on cleanouts and porches from S&K.

Right now the early birds are picking gourds and the big natural ones are very popular.
Thank you so much. It's in the mail. The lady at the post office and myself didn't know how much postage to put on it so it's good up to 4oz. I have no idea how many seeds that will be....I can't wait to try them!!!!
Chris B
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Location: AL/Toney

Hi. I don't get on the internet regurlarly but I sent 2 different gourd source seeds - and when I went to the PO to send them (sat) they said it was way overkill. One gourd has a ton of seeds. Goood luck. They like natural gourds woth S&K porches better than big bo V2 plastic gourds. Use lots of fertilizer and also anticipate a wild garden. Much like cantelopes or watermelons gone wild.
2014 8 gourds, 3 pairs nested. Ended w/ 24 total
2015 24 gourds, 22 nests. Lotsa birds!
2016 24 gourds and good activity.
2017 32 SREH gourds. Great activity.
2018 40 SREH gourds. Good finish despite big storm damage. No more dangling gourds.
2019 56+ SREH gourds, all on 3/8 rods. Birds did very well.
2020 56 SREH gourds.
shaddo
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Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:51 pm
Location: WV

Chris B wrote:Hi. I don't get on the internet regurlarly but I sent 2 different gourd source seeds - and when I went to the PO to send them (sat) they said it was way overkill. One gourd has a ton of seeds. Goood luck. They like natural gourds woth S&K porches better than big bo V2 plastic gourds. Use lots of fertilizer and also anticipate a wild garden. Much like cantelopes or watermelons gone wild.
Thank you very much. Better more postage than not enough. I honestly can't wait to try them out. I plan on planting watermelon and cantelopes plus pumpkin in the same area. My research is saying gourds and pumpkin wont cross...I hope this is true.
JMcM
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Location: MS/Belden

Chris B wrote:Send me a PM with your address and I'll send you seeds that make really nice shaped gourds. Caution... I grew nothing but gourds in my melon patch and the next year (last), I had a ton of volunteer gourd plants come up after tilling to where my friend didn't want to bother planting corn. Now I have a bunch of gourds and have to find a use for them. This year will be the same. Didn't hurt that I got a backhoe scoop of chicken manure for fertilizer in the garden.
Hi Chris. What’s the growing season for gourds?
What’s the latest you can plant and have gourds in the fall? I’m in the Tupelo Ms area so not all that far from you.
Jeff, Sherman MS
shaddo
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The seeds arrived today and in great shape!!! Thanks again!
Chris B
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It is still too early to be putting plants/seeds in the ground around here in N AL. Some will start theirs in little pots with potting mix indoors or in a green house and transplant. Nowadays I just till my patch and they volunteer. I have pulled volunteer sprouts that were 6" deep in the soil.

I sent a pack to a gent up in CA today. Had to fill out a customs form, then the PO guy had to type in the data, and the postage was huge.

No need in pissing off my local PO guy so.... no more Canadians please.
2014 8 gourds, 3 pairs nested. Ended w/ 24 total
2015 24 gourds, 22 nests. Lotsa birds!
2016 24 gourds and good activity.
2017 32 SREH gourds. Great activity.
2018 40 SREH gourds. Good finish despite big storm damage. No more dangling gourds.
2019 56+ SREH gourds, all on 3/8 rods. Birds did very well.
2020 56 SREH gourds.
Chris B
Posts: 375
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:10 pm
Location: AL/Toney

I am turning 25 more natural gourds into ready to hang housing. This should fill out my colony at 60 gourds on 4 tee racks.

Thus, I have a bunch of nice seeds. 2 year old gourds so they should be ready. Send me a PM and be patient. I will want you to send me a padded self addressed stamped envelope inside the mailing envelope, and I will send back the seeds.
2014 8 gourds, 3 pairs nested. Ended w/ 24 total
2015 24 gourds, 22 nests. Lotsa birds!
2016 24 gourds and good activity.
2017 32 SREH gourds. Great activity.
2018 40 SREH gourds. Good finish despite big storm damage. No more dangling gourds.
2019 56+ SREH gourds, all on 3/8 rods. Birds did very well.
2020 56 SREH gourds.
Spiderman
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Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:19 am
Location: Gladewater, Texas

Chris, you sure are a nice Guy!

I don't need any seeds, but it's Great that you are going through the trouble of mailing them to other members!
2008 - 33 PAIR - FLEDGED 96 YOUNG
2009 - 51 PAIR - FLEDGED 166 YOUNG
2010 - 45 PAIR - FLEDGED 146 YOUNG
2011 - 33 PAIR - 128 HATCHED, 97 FLEDGED
2012 - 37 PAIR - 119 HATCHED, 101 FLEDGED
Chris B
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Location: AL/Toney

This thread has my info if anyone wants seeds. It may not be too late in the year to plant. I sent a pack out today. Postage is usually $3 and please use a padded envelope.

These will get nice and big if you put the nutrients to them, and have good neck shapes.
2014 8 gourds, 3 pairs nested. Ended w/ 24 total
2015 24 gourds, 22 nests. Lotsa birds!
2016 24 gourds and good activity.
2017 32 SREH gourds. Great activity.
2018 40 SREH gourds. Good finish despite big storm damage. No more dangling gourds.
2019 56+ SREH gourds, all on 3/8 rods. Birds did very well.
2020 56 SREH gourds.
Chris B
Posts: 375
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:10 pm
Location: AL/Toney

Chris B wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 4:07 pm
This thread has my info if anyone wants seeds. It may not be too late in the year to plant. I sent a pack out today. Postage is usually $3 and please use a padded envelope.

These will get nice and big if you put the nutrients to them, and have good neck shapes.
A guy sent me a pic of some gourds he grew from my Darryl seed strain. He put up a pic once of him holding one that was maybe 2' across. Musta really put the nutes to that one.

In this pic I prefer the one on the left (his right hand), and the porch would be on the left side. That is so the nest can be tucked back in the lower rear part. Drian holes on the low area keep em dry. The larger neck volume gives headroom in the summer heat, and makes mounting on 3/8" rods more stable. I measured my gourds that I have built, and they are 10" about. Never less than 9, up to 11 is OK. Bigger and the nest gets heavy.

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2014 8 gourds, 3 pairs nested. Ended w/ 24 total
2015 24 gourds, 22 nests. Lotsa birds!
2016 24 gourds and good activity.
2017 32 SREH gourds. Great activity.
2018 40 SREH gourds. Good finish despite big storm damage. No more dangling gourds.
2019 56+ SREH gourds, all on 3/8 rods. Birds did very well.
2020 56 SREH gourds.
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