Wasp. What to use on ceilings ?

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baileysambone
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I know this has been discussed before, but I can't find the thread.
What do you use on ceilings of houses so the wasp can't attach to them ?
And if the birds would happen to get this on their bodies or wings, could it harm them ? If I remember right, it was suggested to use cooking spray or something along those lines.
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2012 1 pair ASY male, SY female 9 eggs, 8 hatched, fledged 5
2013 5 pairs fledged 8
2014 4 pairs fledged 15
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2016 10 pairs fledged 31
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2018 18 pairs fledged 69
2019 21 pairs fledged 52 (biting gnats lost babies)
Louise Chambers
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Goo on feathers is to be avoided, always. Use a thin film of petroleum jelly, OR rub ceiling with unscented bar soap, like Ivory. Depending on where you find the wasps typically attaching their nests, you may need to apply to top 1/2 inch of walls, too. Cooking spray is only for tight necks up inside gourds if necessary (might be able to reach up inside with bottle brush & petroleum jelly) and use minimal amount.
phldave
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Thanks,

This is the first I have come across this discussion. I have never had any issues with this, but the way my luck has been going it will probably be next. Hate to be a gloomy gus, but where are the martins?
2012 late start
2013 nothing yet, lots a lookers
2014 Bust again
2015 Bust again
2016 Bust again
2017 Bust again
2018 April 14 a group joined me, but moved on after a week
2019 Had SY male seriously check me out but didn't stay
avesrun
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Martin Colony History: Home Site: 2017- 0
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Satellite Site: 2017 (3rd season)
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Fledged- 102

Just checked some of my gourds today while I had setup down to remove spa o door trapped sparrow. So far so good on the wasps.
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2017 - 31 pair, fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair, 163 fledged
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Courtney-NC
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I fight wasps every year. They are almost as frustrating as HOSP! I have used bar soap and cooking spray. The thing about the bar soap is that you have to be careful not to miss any spots! It is easy to do with bar soap, and then, there you will find yet another wasp nest next time on the tiny spot you missed. If you use cooking spray, check again halfway through the season, because you may need to re-apply. I find that it seems to wear off or just get dirty, and then here come the wasps again. A week or so ago, I was checking one of my public martin sites, and I found a wasp had built a nest *sideways* on the bracket that holds up my EZ-OFF predator guard. That was a lovely surprise. :roll: Make sure you check your predator guards for wasps also! They will hang a nest on the underside of the roof of the predator guard. Last year, I had a wasp also build a nest up in a tunnel of a gourd. I had not thought to treat that area before, but now I do. Nothing like rolling down your rack and coming face-to-face with a nest of angry wasps. Good thing it was cold that day. :shock:
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Anthony Neira
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Martin Colony History: Started in 1992 From neighbors old 1950-60's colonies. Have 8 Trio 6 Room Houses, 4 MPP Poles, 1 Heath Deluxe Gourd with Troyer Porch, 8 NatureLine Gourds with Troyer Porches, 5 Troyer Horizontals ,& 2 S&K 11" WITH Troyer Porches ready for 2019 Season !

FTI ! Be Careful when storing away at the end of the season also, Last year, I helped someone who had lowered their house & put door plugs for winter , & when we started to get the house ready to raise in Mid Jan., there was a BIG Red Texas Wasp Hibernating along the corner of the room ! More Scary Looking than it was dormant , So I got a sheet of news paper, scooped it up & put it away behind the shed, Just didn't feel fair to smash it sleeping :roll: But ! Glad it wasn't warm weather ! Just a future reminder to take note of ! :wink:
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PMCA Member, 8 Trio 6 Room Houses, 1 Heath Deluxe Gourd with Troyer Porch, 8 NatureLine Gourds with Troyer Porches, 5 Troyer Horizontals + Tunnels, & 2 S&K Bo 11"s WITH Troyer Porches ! 4 MPPs, For 2019 Season !! :grin: Started in 1992 from Older '50-'60s Colonies.
baileysambone
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Louise,
This may sound stupid, but can you use unscented liquid soap instead of the bar soap ?
2011 visitors
2012 1 pair ASY male, SY female 9 eggs, 8 hatched, fledged 5
2013 5 pairs fledged 8
2014 4 pairs fledged 15
2015 7 pairs fledged 25
2016 10 pairs fledged 31
2017 17 pairs fledged 69
2018 18 pairs fledged 69
2019 21 pairs fledged 52 (biting gnats lost babies)
avesrun
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Martin Colony History: Home Site: 2017- 0
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
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34 pair
Fledged- 102

Also if you have trio houses, watch under the roofs. When I removed the roofs of two trios that I retrofitted in the off season, the undersides were packed full of wasp nests. I used custom cut pieces of screen and screwed them over the gable end vent holes to prevent future infestation.
Tim
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2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
2017-18 Zero
2019- 3 Successful Prs.!
Satellite Site: 2014 - visitors
2015 - 2 pair, fledged 9
2016 - 13 pair, fledged 44
2017 - 31 pair, fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair, 163 fledged
2019- 49 or. 219 fledged
Louise Chambers
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Yvonne, I think liquid soap would dry out fairly quickly. One thing I think would work but have not tried or read about, plain paraffin - the type that can be used to seal jars of preserves. If rubbed on ceilings, I think the wax coating would prevent wasps.
taxidermy lady
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Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

Wasp have started in my gourds! Cleaned them out today. It was chilly and got all of them sitting on there nest! I will try the wax! Thanks :grin:
Sharon from southern Illinois
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