Second year bust

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charlesgremillion
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:56 pm
Location: Southaven MS
Martin Colony History: Year 1 2020
6pairs
13 fledged

Year 2 2021
0

My second year started with six pairs moving in. Then after building nests , they abruptly abandoned the houses . I noticed that over the next few weeks a single male or sometimes a female would perch for a few minutes then leave. I'm not sure what caused them to leave .No snakes and I have been able to keep House Sparrows under control. Not sure what chased them away but hoping next year will be better.
John Miller
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Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:11 pm
Location: St. Louis, MO

Charles

Sure does sound like a snake, or some kind of predation. One almost needs to be a detective sometimes to figure these things out. In any event, hope you have a better season next year.

John Miller
sugarcreek
Posts: 233
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:43 am
Location: Sugarcreek, Ohio
Martin Colony History: 2016 First Yr.

Thats tough, could have been hawks or any kind of predator
16 - 14 Cavities 4 Act. Ne 9 fledged, 2.25 Fl. per Act. Ne
17 - 36 Cavities 18 Act. Ne 65 Fledged, 3.61 Fl. per Act. Ne
18 - 54 Cavities 43 Act. Ne 169 Fledged, 3.93 Fl. per Act. Ne
19 - 108 Cavities 67 Act. Ne 209 Fledged, 3.12 Fl. per Act. Ne
20 - 108 Cavities 72 Act. Ne 243 Fledged, 3.38 Fl. per Act. Ne
21 - 112 Cavities 91 Act. Ne 313 Fledged, 3.44 Fl. per Act. Ne
charlesgremillion
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:56 pm
Location: Southaven MS
Martin Colony History: Year 1 2020
6pairs
13 fledged

Year 2 2021
0

Funny you should mention Hawks, This morning sitting on my porch I spotted a young Coopers Hawk perching on a neighbors basketball goal; Later today I watched two Mississippi Kites and three hawks soaring over the neighborhood ,They were too high to identify, but they were hawks . Two blocks from my home 50+ acres of woodland have been cleared . I assume that we are seeing the results of wildlife being displaced . I know that a number of deer and coyotes were living in that area. My city is rapidly losing its charm, I am now considering moving to a rural area.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 3178
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

When you say abruptly they were gone, what kind of time frame are you talking about? If they were there one day and gone the next it almost has to have been a snake, or raccoon etc. If they started receiving pressure from other predators like a hawk they likely wouldn't all leave at once. An entire colony of nesting martins wouldn't just leave overnight.

You say no snakes, how do you know there were no snakes?
2021 Currently 62 nest 138 babies plus 110 eggs (6-317-21) HOSP count-9
2020 42 nest, Fledged 164 HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
brent
Posts: 513
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:43 pm
Location: Raceland, Louisiana

My experience with a snake involved Bluebirds. The snake breached a pole guard and netting. It ate one Bluebird chick. The Bluebird chick that survived the attack was only 13 days old. The parents did not hesitate to coax that chick out from the nest. They were that fearful. The chick hopped away and managed to escape. The parents did not return. A snake is a powerful deterrent.
Brent
Dave Reynolds
Posts: 1962
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2017 Visitors
Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2018 - 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 156 Eggs, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 162 Eggs, 144 Fledged

Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Eggs, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Eggs, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 39 Eggs, 36 Fledged

... Charles ... That seemed to be what might have happen at my home a few years ago.. I had a pair of Martins that were here for a week and then started building a nest in one of my T-14's.. They build a super looking nest which took them about 10 or 11 days, and even put some green leaves in the nest... Then out of the clear blue they abandoned the nest and moved over to my gourd rack and started building another nest in a Gourd... In about a week they started laying eggs in the Gourd and fledged young ones. The only difference between the T-14 and the Gourd rack was, I put snake netting on the gourd rack pole, just in case I had a snake in the area.. I have a lot of woods close to my houses, so a snake could have climbed the T-14's pole and scared them away.. Good Luck in 2022

Dave
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Little Hocking, Ohio
charlesgremillion
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:56 pm
Location: Southaven MS
Martin Colony History: Year 1 2020
6pairs
13 fledged

Year 2 2021
0

Thanks, I will be putting up snake guards for next year.
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