SREHs do appear to work

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betaflame
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SREHs do appear to work

Postby betaflame » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:20 pm

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fIKsS ... nPnmhAJPO1

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1e1Jd2 ... q2bzEeaNUF

No martins yet though.

Unfortunately I'm positioned kinda close to trees (30-50ft to base of trees, but they're 4-5 stories tall, no option unfortunately.)

TNMartins
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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby TNMartins » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:00 pm

Cool camera shot. Is that a GoPro mounted on the porch?
12 S&K B09 Gourds w/ 2 S&K barns converted to 6 cavities each

2016 - 0 visits
2017 - Few visitors late summer
2018 - 1 Pair, 5 Fledged
2019 -

betaflame
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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby betaflame » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:36 pm

It's one of those $20 Wyze cameras (wifi, powered by USB 5V) on an S&K 12-compartment house.

(which sounds good except...
with a $10 outdoor cover
a 24V (5A/120W) AC adapter nearby (30ft from base)
a 12ga 2-conductor wire buried and run up to the birdhouse, which goes into the attic of the house, and powers
a USB (car 12/24V) charger with a bunch of USB ports

so I can technically have a camera on every porch and inside every alcove if I wanted to. I wasn't going to bother actually doing the full build if I didn't actually manage to attract martins....

(I also looked into heating/cooling using that power source, but decided not to bother unless I actually get martins).

Here's the same camera with a pair: https://drive.google.com/open?id=18m8dF ... pxx-ASHBtO

Battery powered "Ring" camera video quality.... might have been compromised from the battery not behaving by the below freezing temps: https://drive.google.com/open?id=10Rf3V ... 9ckxIAISFf

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby John & Linda - KY » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:40 am

I enjoy watching the starlings struggle in vain to enter our crescents. Their long legs just get in the way too much. -- John

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby betaflame » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:33 pm


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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby flyin-lowe » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:23 am

Just remember they are starling resistant not starling proof. In the spring it is not unheard of for a smaller starling that has not been able to eat as much over the winter. I had my first starling breach of an SREH last summer and once one gets in it will continue until you trap or shoot it. Fortunately the vast majority of them will not get in.
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby betaflame » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:30 pm

The starlings can't get in but they show up on it every day and inspect the house and the holes... it's a pair. Hopefully the starlings hanging around (but not being able to get in) doesn't bother PMs looking.

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby flyin-lowe » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:04 pm

My bad, I was on my phone at work and couldn't see the media. I thought it said SREH Don't appear to work. I misread.......
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby JHunter » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:14 pm

Nice video...think I'll be switching doors.

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby betaflame » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:03 pm

So the starlings are all over the house every morning for 15-20 minutes checking most/all of the insides of the compartments (just sticking their heads in and looking). Only once did I see them bring nesting material (then proceed to not fit in)

Will that scare off PMs?

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby flyin-lowe » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:47 pm

I finally got to watch the videos. Nice camera set up. The starlings were just looking in and not trying to get in. The only reason I bring it up is that martins will do the same thing when they first arrive at a new site. Some people see this and get anxiety that they can't get in. I have seen SY's look into a cavity for a day or two before actually going into a cavity. When you see the starlings get in part way and pushing with it's feet then you'll see the SREH in action.

I've never experience starlings actually chasing off visiting martins like tree swallows and some other birds will. The starlings seem to be more of a threat if they decide they want a cavity and get a martin trapped inside. At least that has been my experience.
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

betaflame
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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby betaflame » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:07 pm

I thought it was just a pair, added a camera aimed at the yard, it was actually a small flock of like 10 starlings.

I guess they sweep through every morning to grab the bugs and berries in my yard?

A few of them brought straw/grass material up to the house and stuck their heads in before giving up though.

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby betaflame » Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:17 pm

flyin-lowe wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:47 pm
When you see the starlings get in part way and pushing with it's feet then you'll see the SREH in action.
Yeah now they're trying that and bringing nesting material... it's not working, but they're trying:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Mh61z ... NGKExuD4Wc
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1SyhAN ... loisBqz5qL
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1i0PXC ... JDDESxbxoV

Bonus starling taking issue with the camera: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Buey5 ... 8HHKdQlAeA

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby betaflame » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:52 am

So I haven't seen a single purple martin (on the cameras either), but multiple starlings every single day trying to get in, some with nest material.

Today I had a new pair show up:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AaHhI ... Hzyy6qAMpl
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RFJh3 ... B9Ycf8UoT3

Please tell me those are house finches and not house sparrows (the brown coloration makes it not look like the HOSPs that I saw when I looked online (black beaks and face coloration))

Edit: Now I'm almost certain that's a HOSP: http://www.sialis.org/otherbrownbirds.htm

Time to close up the house until a martin shows on camera I guess (assuming the HOSP comes back, which I assume it will)...

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby sugarcreek » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:42 am

That's a HOSP alright
2016 - 1st Yr. 14 Compartments 4 Active Nests 9 fledged, 2.25 Fledged per Active Nest
2017 - 2nd Yr. 36 Compartments 18 Active Nests 65 Fledged, 3.61 Fledged per Active Nest
2018 - 3rd Yr. 54 Compartments 43 Active Nests 169 Fledged, 3.93 Fledged per Active Nest
2019 - 4th Yr. 108 Compartments ??

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby betaflame » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:06 am

There were are least 4 all over the house checking the rooms. I closed up all but one and if they come back I'm just going to close it up until they move on or I see a purple martin.

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby betaflame » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:37 am

Do you know what this bird is and is it harmless to PMs?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lPnN5- ... p=drivesdk

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Martin Colony History: 2018 - First house up in late June, lots of visitors.

Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby FarmerHarv » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:48 am

Tufted Titmouse I think? It's a cavity nester but I'm not sure of their interaction with martins. Nice little bird that unfortunately we'll never have in our area (we saw some in South Carolina).

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Re: SREHs do appear to work

Postby Louise Chambers » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:52 am

Yes, tufted titmouse, native bird, cavity nester, harmless to martins. they sometimes nest in bluebird boxes.

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Martin Colony History: I have been exposed to purple martin sounds in utero when my mother went out to get my father away from his martin colony.
I played around the martin colony every summer and watched as my father maintained his colony. In the late 50's until the 70's he did not notice European Starlings in south Texas.
When old enough, I helped maintain his colony. My primary task was eliminating English House Sparrows with a scoped Benjamin .177 pellet rifle.
When I settled into my own home, I started my first colony with an original Trio Castle and Trio Grandpa. When I moved again, I did not put up any martin houses. Frustration with European Starlings in the Southeast US was overwhelming.
Found PMCA Forum and learned about modern enlarged compartments and SREHs.
Inherited my father's last martin house, a Trio Grandma, modified it to modern specifications and have had good results since then.

Double Compartments

Postby 4th Gen Martin Fan » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:17 am

betaflame,
Your commitment to the purple martins with cameras to monitor your house is commendable.
Have you converted your S&K house to double compartments to improve the odds that purple martins will select your house and stay?
Mark.
Firm believer in Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, S&S Control, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.


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