Advice for Adding House to Gourd Setup?

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handyman315
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Martin Colony History: Colony established May 20, 2017 after three unsuccessful years. Persistent and aggressive Tree Swallows plagued the site, but beyond learning - and practicing - to control them, was the return in 2017 of a 2016-SY-M previously unable to find a mate. As a handsome ASY-M, he brought along two females and a swagger that soon put the Tree Swallow issue to rest. As the anchor pair, he and his mate hatched all six of their eggs into fat and healthy babies into what settled in to be a three-pair, flourishing new colony with up to 11 birds total, including 3 SY-M trouble makers.

Advice for Adding House to Gourd Setup?

Postby handyman315 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:33 am

Thinking of adding a nice pole-house combo to my growing PM colony, but knowledge is limited and pretty much confined to gourds . . . which I like, BTW. But darned if those houses don't look sharp, especially ones like the T-14, but what happens in the off season? Can they be taken down, or must they remain up?

Thanks.
2018-ASY-M Arrived April 6, Despite Snow & Cold, Joined Soon by Mate & Two Adult Pairs, All Hunkered in the Cold
2017-FIRST-YEAR LANDLORD! :grin: Resident SY-M from 2016 Returned (as ASY-M) on May 20. At Least 11 Resident PMs, with 13 Fledged from Three Nests . . . (And Operated a Daily Flying Circus) :grin:
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pmlover
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Re: Advice for Adding House to Gourd Setup?

Postby pmlover » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:10 pm

the t-14s can be left on poles during winter but I cover mine with house covers
2013 70 pairs 280 eggs 260 babies 250 fledged
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2012 3 pairs one nest 5 fledged
2016 100 pairs 600 babies fledged added another t-14 and have 126 openings now
2015 Jun 24 360 babies and 58 eggs also found one that had died
2017 632 babies 11died and 20 were killed by hawks
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KathyF
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Re: Advice for Adding House to Gourd Setup?

Postby KathyF » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:43 pm

The T-14s are nice houses. I thought about putting up one here for awhile. But they will require maintenance and I don't have time for that, along with my full-time job. The other thing I didn't like about the T14s is one door will open multiple cavities at once. And if you have ready-to-fledge nestlings and new hatchlings on the same side, nest checks would be difficult.
Lastly, consider the weight - the size pole / cables, etc. needed to support that size house - we have a lot of heavy winds here and, my gourd racks along with the owl cages I have already have to be lowered.
Just some things to think about. If you check off the list above (including - how would you mount an owl cage if you ever experienced an owl problem), and you still want to do it, then go for it! At least you did your due diligence!
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Re: Advice for Adding House to Gourd Setup?

Postby Dave Duit » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:11 pm

Kathy has some great points that should be considered if you choose to put up a T14. The biggest is a VERY strong pole and cable.
Mite control, heat venting, predator protection and additional feeding during bad weather add up to success.

handyman315
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Location: SW Ohio
Martin Colony History: Colony established May 20, 2017 after three unsuccessful years. Persistent and aggressive Tree Swallows plagued the site, but beyond learning - and practicing - to control them, was the return in 2017 of a 2016-SY-M previously unable to find a mate. As a handsome ASY-M, he brought along two females and a swagger that soon put the Tree Swallow issue to rest. As the anchor pair, he and his mate hatched all six of their eggs into fat and healthy babies into what settled in to be a three-pair, flourishing new colony with up to 11 birds total, including 3 SY-M trouble makers.

Re: Advice for Adding House to Gourd Setup?

Postby handyman315 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:46 pm

Really appreciate the comments. Just the kind of candid input needed. Thanks.
2018-ASY-M Arrived April 6, Despite Snow & Cold, Joined Soon by Mate & Two Adult Pairs, All Hunkered in the Cold
2017-FIRST-YEAR LANDLORD! :grin: Resident SY-M from 2016 Returned (as ASY-M) on May 20. At Least 11 Resident PMs, with 13 Fledged from Three Nests . . . (And Operated a Daily Flying Circus) :grin:
2016-Several Visits, Late-Arriving SYs, Resident Lone SY-M, Unable to Find Mate, Entered ALL Cavities
2015 & 2014-Many Visits

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Re: Advice for Adding House to Gourd Setup?

Postby flyin-lowe » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:08 am

I take mine down at the end of each season. I am in my mid 40's and can still take it down and put it up by myself, though if you have help it is nice. If you use a high quality paint it should last a long time. I would have to go back and check my records but I built mine 10-13 years ago and used one of the top rated exterior paints. Last year was the first year I decided to re paint it. Using a quality paint and taking it out of the weather each fall/winter should get you 10-15 years maintenance free. Make sure you get a good quality pole. Each section of the house probably weighs 20 pounds or more, especially once it fills up with birds, nesting material etc. It seems like the price of quality gourds have doubles over the last 15 years or so. Gourd racks used to be a cheaper way to go but now a T14 is not much more (sometimes cheaper) then buying enough gourds to fill a rack....
2018- Currently 14 pair nesting, 35 babies hatched and 15 eggs (6-22)
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Re: Advice for Adding House to Gourd Setup?

Postby daveh » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:14 pm

I have a T14 and a NorthStar. Both are great houses but there is always maintenance to be done because they are wood. I'm still using the original wooden laminate post on the T14 that was in the T14 plan book. It's straight as an arrow and 13 years old but occasionally needs paint, as does the house. If you are not into maintenance then the Trio houses and Trendsetters are great. I have a Castle, a Minicastle, 2 Musselmans, and a 26 compartment Trendsetter. I don't usually take the houses off the poles in the winter time unless I need to work on the wooden houses like painting them. I have covers for all. I have plastic gourds under the houses and are stashed away in an outbuilding during the winter. They will last a long time by doing this.

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