Do Unsuccessful SY Male Bachelors Return?

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Do Unsuccessful SY Male Bachelors Return?

Postby bootjack farm » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:22 am

I'm now a SY landlord so I am still concerned that there will be enough birds to sustain my colony next year. I have three unattached SY males that are trying hard.

Question: If they are unsuccessful in attracting a mate this season are they likely to return to my colony next year?
Northwest PA

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Re: Do Unsuccessful SY Male Bachelors Return?

Postby tboydshirt » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:23 am

that was my hope last year. had a male all summer, but no return for me. could have died over winter though.

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Re: Do Unsuccessful SY Male Bachelors Return?

Postby flyin-lowe » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:56 pm

That's how my first ever colony started. I had an SY male build a nest and spend all summer at my place trying to attract a mate, and he never did. Then next year he came back as an ASY male and went straight into the same gourd. That year he attracted a mate and drew in 4 more SY pair.
2018- Currently 14 pair nesting, 31 eggs, and 15 babies hatched (6/9)
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

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Re: Do Unsuccessful SY Male Bachelors Return?

Postby Heavy_D » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:31 am

I have wondered the same thing.

I have had on and off visitors for the last couple weeks. There was another pair this morning. I don't know if it's the same SY male and female or not but He goes for the same cavity each time and attempts to lure her in but she's never quite convinced.

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Re: Do Unsuccessful SY Male Bachelors Return?

Postby pmlover » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:40 pm

They will try again as long as you keep your site inviting and protected
2013 70 pairs 280 eggs 260 babies 250 fledged
2015 69 pairs 418 eggs 396 fledged
2012 3 pairs one nest 5 fledged
2016 100 pairs 600 babies fledged added another t-14 and have 126 openings now
2015 Jun 24 360 babies and 58 eggs also found one that had died
2017 632 babies 11died and 20 were killed by hawks
2015 74 pairs and 9 eggs 5/14
2010 3pairss

2014 80 pairs 283 babies 282 fledged one died

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Location: SW Ohio
Martin Colony History: Colony established May 20, 2017 after three unsuccessful years. Persistent and aggressive Tree Swallows plagued the site, but beyond learning - and practicing - to control them, was the return in 2017 of a 2016-SY-M previously unable to find a mate. As a handsome ASY-M, he brought along two females and a swagger that soon put the Tree Swallow issue to rest. As the anchor pair, he and his mate hatched all six of their eggs into fat and healthy babies into what settled in to be a three-pair, flourishing new colony with up to 11 birds total, including 3 SY-M trouble makers.

Re: Do Unsuccessful SY Male Bachelors Return?

Postby handyman315 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:41 pm

Almost exactly the way my new colony started, i.e., SY-M clearly claimed my site in 2016 but could never get a female to move in/stay. He returned in 2017 (as a dandy ASY-M) and brought along two females. Other birds joined in, and he and Rio Rita hatched out five chubby babies. He's back again this year, and is clearly my anchor bird.

Maybe not the same bird? Pshaw! Exact same gourd all three years, besides we are now bonded . . . two old guys and he feels sorry for me because I can't fly. :cry:
2018-ASY-M Arrived April 6, Despite Snow & Cold, Joined Soon by Mate & Two Adult Pairs, All Hunkered in the Cold
2017-FIRST-YEAR LANDLORD! :grin: Resident SY-M from 2016 Returned (as ASY-M) on May 20. At Least 11 Resident PMs, with 13 Fledged from Three Nests . . . (And Operated a Daily Flying Circus) :grin:
2016-Several Visits, Late-Arriving SYs, Resident Lone SY-M, Unable to Find Mate, Entered ALL Cavities
2015 & 2014-Many Visits

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Location: Western KY
Martin Colony History: Trying to attract PMs since 2004; began a more ernest attempt in 2014. Modified Trio M12K at 15' w/3 gourds beneath; multi-rack w/8 gourds mounted at 20'.

2018 — finally have 1 ASY pair & 1 SY pair in the Trio & 1 SY pair in a supergourd on the multi-rack. :D

Re: Do Unsuccessful SY Male Bachelors Return?

Postby TheSmiths » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:55 pm

handyman315 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:41 pm
. . . two old guys and he feels sorry for me because I can't fly.

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