Martins killed a snake

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daltonmissouri
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Martins killed a snake

Postby daltonmissouri » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:55 pm

My wife was watching our martins out the window, and they kept flying down to the ground and pecking at something there, both landing and pecking and fluttering and pecking. When she went out to see what it was, she found a small garter snake which they had killed.
Has anyone else had martins killing snakes? If so, I hope they kill copperheads too.

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Re: Martins killed a snake

Postby Louise Chambers » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:12 pm

I wonder if they were mobbing a snake that was already dead, dropped there by a hawk or other predator? Martin beak is just not a killing machine, when it comes to snakes. How long was the snake?

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Re: Martins killed a snake

Postby flyin-lowe » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:59 pm

I agree the odds of martins killing any snake is slim. I have seen them act the same way toward HOSP. I have had HOSP sitting on and coming to and from their housing all day and really pay it no attention. I have then shot the HOSP and they will follow it to the ground and act the same way. They don't always do it buy from time to time they do.
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daltonmissouri
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Re: Martins killed a snake

Postby daltonmissouri » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:11 am

The snake was very small, about 4-6 inches.
What is a HOSP?
Thanks for your responses.

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Re: Martins killed a snake

Postby Spiderman » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:13 am

HOSP is a sparrow.

I agree snake was already dead.
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daltonmissouri
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Re: Martins killed a snake

Postby daltonmissouri » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:32 am

Thanks. I tired to guess: "horde of stupid pigeons?"

daltonmissouri
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Re: Martins killed a snake

Postby daltonmissouri » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:34 am

That's disappointing that the snake was most likely already dead. I was going to turn my martins on the copperheads next.

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Re: Martins killed a snake

Postby flyin-lowe » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:37 pm

I saw last night a video that possums eat copperheads and are immune to the venom, I had no idea but checked youtube and saw some videos on there showing them killing poisonous snakes....
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
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2016 1 pair fledged 4
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2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

daltonmissouri
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Re: Martins killed a snake

Postby daltonmissouri » Wed May 08, 2019 11:22 am

We used to have a cat that would eat baby copperheads, and she showed no ill effects from it.

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Re: Martins killed a snake

Postby Brad Biddle » Wed May 08, 2019 1:29 pm

HOSP is a sparrow.
HOSP specifically is a House Sparrow. A non-native, invasive species. There are quite a few native, non cavity nesting, sparrows.
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Re: Martins killed a snake

Postby Anthony Neira » Wed May 08, 2019 2:23 pm

I've seen Mocking Birds, Grackles & rats kill small snakes. :shock:
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