Think I have decided to build another T14

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sugarcreek
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby sugarcreek » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:56 pm

Great job, how do you keep the house from swivelling on the pole?
2016 - 1st Yr. 14 Compartments 4 Active Nests 9 fledged, 2.25 Fledged per Active Nest
2017 - 2nd Yr. 36 Compartments 18 Active Nests 65 Fledged, 3.61 Fledged per Active Nest
2018 - 3rd Yr. 54 Compartments 43 Active Nests 169 Fledged, 3.93 Fledged per Active Nest
2019 - 4th Yr. 108 Compartments 67 Active Nests 209 Fledged, 3.12 Fledged per Active Nest
2020 - 5th Yr. 108 Compartments ?

flyin-lowe
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:19 pm

When it is all the way down it will twist some but when it is up halfway or higher it doesn't twist. I guess there is not enough play in the cable that is coming down only a short distance. I kind of feel like the pulley itself acts like a guide, all I know is my other one is built the same and in winds 40 mph or higher it will only twist a couple inches, nowhere near enough to mess with orientation.
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Bkhollan
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Bkhollan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:19 pm

Housing is coming together nicely!

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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:59 pm

Probably my last pic before paint and ready to hang it up. I got my SREH plates today so I got the porches on and the doors cut and ready for the SREH plates. I won't put them on until after paint but the doors, hinges, and latches are all on.

I also got my winch today. I ended up getting a D&L brake winch, with 800 pound limit. When I bought it I noticed they had the gold color ones and nickel plated ones. The nickel ones were a few dollars cheaper. I called D&L and asked them which one they recommend that would hold up better to being outside year round and they recommended the nickel one, so that's what I got. I have everything ready for the pole, I just need to find a piece of pipe with a 3.5 inch ID to use as a ground sleeve.
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2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Buckeyefarmer
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Martin Colony History: 2015- 0 visitors
2016- 0 visitors
2017- built T-14+songbird magnet, 6 pairs,15 fledged
2018- built 2nd T-14. Anxiously waiting!!

Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Buckeyefarmer » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:27 am

I’ve also built another T-14 for my colony. This will be number 3. I hope to see them soon!
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flyin-lowe
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:22 am

Your poles look similar to mine. Curious what size they are? Both of mine are 3.5 inch OD pipe. Probably a little overkill but they do not move in the wind and by shopping around I was able to find them fairly cheap. When I built my first one a friend of mine got me a ground sleeve but he no longer teaches the vocation class anymore. So I am on the lookout for a piece of pipe with a 3.5 inch ID that the pole can slide down into. Online shows 4 inch sched. 40 pipe has a 3.55 inch ID which would be perfect. So far locally I can't find anything PVC that is around 3.5 inch ID. Not sure if they make it or not.....
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

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Martin Colony History: First pair in 2009 after 28 years of trying. 3 pairs 2010, 17 pairs 2011 and 35-45 pairs since. Many additional colonies are now springing up around mine in an area once completely void of Martins. I offer 50 compartments at my site consisting of primarily Excluder II gourds on Gemini racks. Also a wooden T-14. I utilize electric fence type predator guards on the base of the poles. Supplemental feeding is crucial in maintaining my colony. I platform feed throughout the season as needed. My site tends to be a stop over point for additional birds as they migrate further north.

Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Doug Martin - PA » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:32 am

Nice job! Always a bit tricky getting the entrances to align inside and out. I am now using the black wax cardboard trays but of course they are a different thickness than the original trays I built causing an issue of height getting out. I had to shim it on the inside. You pretty much have to know what trays you will use going forward. Good post for those looking to build. Doug
Supplemental feeding plays a major role in western Pennsylvania. Finally got my 1st pair in 2009 after 28 years of effort. 3 pairs in 2010. 17 pairs in 2011. 35 pairs and 150 young in 2012 & 2013. Plus a new 22 pair colony right down the road from me.

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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:04 pm

I may be looking at it wrong but I always assumed the closer the bottom of the SREH is to the floor the harder it is to get through. I always have my porch almost flush making it tougher for starlings. The inside floor is a little lower so if they needed to get out quicker for some reason they can. From what I have seen though once they use an SREH a few times they buzz right in. I’ve been thinking ahead to what to use for nest trays. I have some cedar 1x’s scraps left to make some. I did cut the front edge of my original ones back at an angle like a wedge so the don’t interfere with the entrance.
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

GFB
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Martin Colony History: I Started my first colony with my father in the late 1960's. Started building custom vinyl Martin houses last year 2018 and was successful with 10 birds fledged and it looks like several dozen birds are hanging around. Time to expand.
2018: 1 T-14 and 6 gourds. Fledged 10
2019: 2 T-14's and 6 gourds. Fledged 70

Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby GFB » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:36 pm

I may be looking at it wrong but I always assumed the closer the bottom of the SREH is to the floor the harder it is to get through. I always have my porch almost flush making it tougher for starlings. The inside floor is a little lower so if they needed to get out quicker for some reason they can. From what I have seen though once they use an SREH a few times they buzz right in. I’ve been thinking ahead to what to use for nest trays. I have some cedar 1x’s scraps left to make some. I did cut the front edge of my original ones back at an angle like a wedge so the don’t interfere with the entrance.
I picked up a bundle of ceder shake siding cheap! at my local big box home improvement store. They are around 16 inches in length and already tapered on one side. I think they might make nice nest trays.

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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:55 pm

I decided to go with red trim paint on this one. My other is blue so I figured I would give something different a try. Plus red white and blue never hurts in my neck of the woods....
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2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Buckeyefarmer
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Martin Colony History: 2015- 0 visitors
2016- 0 visitors
2017- built T-14+songbird magnet, 6 pairs,15 fledged
2018- built 2nd T-14. Anxiously waiting!!

Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Buckeyefarmer » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:48 pm

Looks great, I like the red trim.
Mark
Central, OHIO.

GFB
Posts: 53
Joined: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:05 pm
Location: Ontario NY
Martin Colony History: I Started my first colony with my father in the late 1960's. Started building custom vinyl Martin houses last year 2018 and was successful with 10 birds fledged and it looks like several dozen birds are hanging around. Time to expand.
2018: 1 T-14 and 6 gourds. Fledged 10
2019: 2 T-14's and 6 gourds. Fledged 70

Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby GFB » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:18 pm

I decided to go with red trim paint on this one. My other is blue so I figured I would give something different a try. Plus red white and blue never hurts in my neck of the woods....
flyin-lowe,
Really nice house, Love it when people show what they build. For some of us that like to make our houses there's no better feeling to see it all come together with lots of birds using it. I do have a question, have you ever seen anyone make a T14 that the compartments open individually? I'm thinking of giving it a try but I'm can't figure out how to keep the water out if we should get a driving rain. I never did a nest change before and people say the chicks in another compartment could be jumpers. Thanks GFB

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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:34 pm

I had originally planned to put the entrances on the sides near the front so the Martins would have to make a 90 degree turn to get to the nest which would help predators from being able to reach in. I thought about individual doors for each box but did not have the time to figure out the changes so I just followed the standard plans. I don’t think the individual door would allow much more water in the an entrance does but I could be wrong on that.
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Rodger Drye » Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:52 pm

Nice carpentry work flyin-Lowe. How many T-14’s do you have now.? Just recently purchased a T-14 from Andrew Troyer. Eagerly awaiting it’s delivery.!
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:42 am

This is my second one. I built my first one 10 plus years ago or so. I loved them from the first time I saw one. I started with an S&K barn house as I wanted to just see if I could get visitors in my area. I knew nothing about PM's so I didn't want to invest that kind of time and money if there were no martins around. Once I got some visitors and began to learn about the populations and found martin colonies near by I built one. They are an expensive house but with proper care should last for a long time. I bring mine in every winter and store it in my shed.
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Rodger Drye » Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:44 am

This will be my first T-14. I really like the Red Trim on the last one you built. Is that T-14 made out of Poly-wood or Cedar.?
I may paint mine with the Red Trim if you don’t mind. It will already be solid white, Poly-wood and Azak.
Well my Bird’s just keep coming in more and more every day. I may have as many as 35 or 40, it’s so hard to count with them all flying around and some going in and out of the Gourd’s. How many do you have so far.?
I’ve got my hole dug and the concrete, Monday will go and get some 3/8” x 3” x 64” and some 1/4 “ x 2” cross members to weld my “Pole Support Anchor”. Drill a couple quick 5/8” holes and after that I should be ready to install the T-14.
Question...How is the cable run so as to lift the unit up and down? Is there a hook or something to attach it to.?
I guess I’ll find out when I get it, surely there will be some directions.!
Take care and keep sending those Great photos.! :wink:
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kim w.
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby kim w. » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:21 am

I have built 4 T-10. Chucks purple martin page has plans. Mine are like his only 2" square pole. I also put tunnels attached to the side instead of mounted on the door.
Kim W.

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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Rodger Drye » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:31 am

Sounds Cool Kim.
Yes I know Chuck very well. I think I might like the tunnel on the side idea as well. Probably better at predator prevention.
Do your Bird’s seem to like them o.k.? Does the whole front still open to do a nest check.?
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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby flyin-lowe » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:35 pm

Rodger
I know you said you ordered your T 14 from Troyer. Did you buy the pole, and mounting kit etc. or just the house? I posted some pics in another thread about T 14's. I built a wood carrier that slides up and down the pole and my sections of house mount to that. My cable goes up through one side of the carrier and then down through the other. I have a little hook on the bottom of the carrier but also have some clamps on the cable that also help hold it up. There is a large steel washer on the bottom of the carrier so the clamps don't embed into the wood. Hard to describe though. I fabbed my own carrier since I use round poles.
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

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Re: Think I have decided to build another T14

Postby Rodger Drye » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:45 pm

Flyin-Lowe,
Yeah actually I already had a 3” Aluminum and a 3 “ Steel Pole. I’ve been anticipating this move for quite some time. Knowing that my Nitro - D Rack was nearing it’s completion and that my wishing for a T-14 was becoming a reality.
I had 5 large packages arrive from Troyer’s today and 1 small cylindrical one. I guessed that the small one had to be perch rods and I was right , as that’s the only one I had time to open.
Remember what I told you about having a large family.? But tomorrow is another day and what didn’t get done today will have to wait until tomorrow.
Anticipating what’s coming together is just part of the excitement and fun of it.
Right now I’m in the process of looking for some #316 stainless steel wire rope 1/4” x (7x19) x 36 ft. For my Nitro - D Rack.
It will be a somewhat heavier Rack and I may be going with a little overkill. I’ve checked with E-Rigging and Suncor Stainless, would you happen to know of any others.?
Wouldn’t want that baby coming down on me or my Grandkids.! It’s interesting getting on this internet and trying to see what you can come up with. There again I already had 2 winches, a Dutton-Lainson and a Troyer’s. So all I had to buy was an Aluminum Mounting Kit for the T-14. The Nitro - D has a mounting hole welded on the bottom mast that will facilitate up to a 3/8” wire rope or stainless steel quick link which ever works best.
My 3” steel pole is exactly like the 3” x 3” Aluminum. It’s measurements are 1/8” x 3” x 3” x 16 ft. I burned a groove in two opposite sides at the top and drilled a hole for the pulley just like the 3” x 3” Aluminum.
All my poles have two 5/8” holes drilled at the bottom of the pole so the pole can be mounted to the Pole Support Anchor. Thus, so I can lay the whole pole down so I can lubricate or perforom an inspection on everything. Everything easy - NO LIFTING.! I had a back injury when I was in the U.S. Marines and lifting about anything is out of the question for me.
I guess you’ll know what I’ll be doing for the next little while (working on making that T-14 to materialize).
Same as when I purchased my Gemini Rack everyone said get ready to put a lot of nuts and bolts together. And they were right. It wasn’t really that bad though.
Wish I could remember how to post and send photos. I want everyone to be able to see my new Racks.
I’ve probably got some notes on it somewhere.
One thing on the Pole Mounting Kit what do you need a Pad Lock and Chain for.??
Thanks,
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