New predator guard

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flyin-lowe
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Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

I needed a predator guard for the T14 I put up last year. I made one very similar to this approximately 15 years ago and haven't had a breach. I have found paw prints on it from raccoons trying to get up it. Even though I have never had an issue I am going to add some netting above it I think. This one (and my old one) are made from 12 inch PVC. Both of them were donated from friends in the construction business. I use a saw and split them down the middle. The first one has hinges on one side and latches on the other. This time I decided to just use 4 latches. The hinges leave a small gap, with latches on the top and bottom at both seams it cinches tight with a very smooth seam. Both are over 4 feet tall and this gives me 48 inches between the bottom latches and the top latches. I painted them gloss black so they are slick. The other reason I like this design is that it wraps around the bottom of the pole and the winch both. When my kids were younger I didn't have to worry about them messing with the winch and dropping the T14 down on them. I was thinking about going to electric this year but saw this piece sitting in a pile behind a local excavation company, pulled in and asked about it and they said load it up.... I plan to put the "flanged" end on the ground but not sure if it will matter one way or the other.
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2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 2896
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Here is a pic of my original one and how it looks on the set up.
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2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
Kegger
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Joined: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:58 am
Location: Awesome Florida
Martin Colony History: Newbie in 2020: 2 pair of SY with 4 eggs each in Troyer Horizontals
fledged a total of 7 Martins

nice job! Looks store bought. I am looking into electrifying my settup
My house 6 sided can rotate 360 for nest checks, if I add a sheet of
an insulator it could be done easy.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 2896
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

I let the paint dry and put the guard on today. I had to end up putting the flared/flanged end of the pipe up top. At first I had the flanged side down and when I went to clamp it it was about 1/4 of an inch shy of going around the winch and the metal box that the winch is bolted to that is also bolted to the pole. Flipping it over gave me just enough clearance. Now I need to figure out how I'm going to rig up the netting.
2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
deancamp
Posts: 412
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Raymore, MO

Lowe, the recommendation is to have the guard up of the ground for 2 feet. Do you think you have had good success with this guard going to the ground because it is a 12" pipe instead of an 8" pipe?
flyin-lowe
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Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

I had always heard the top of the guard needs to be at least 4 foot off the ground. That's why I make these a little over 4 foot tall some there is 48 inches between the latches. I think the top height is so a big snake can't reach its head to the top from the ground. If you have a guard that a rat snake can grip and climb I don't think it matters if it is 2 foot up or 10 foot up. They could climb the pole, get to the guard, and the climb up the guard. Raccoons might be a different story. If a raccoon is gripping and climbing the pole and the gets to a well designed guard I'm not sure how well they could make that transition. Each year I find muddy raccoon prints on the bottom part of the guard.

I would love to have access to a large rat snake to see if it could climb these or not. When I was a kid I can remember it was not uncommon to be driving and see a large rat snake laying accros AP the road. They looked liked a big stick and they would jump out of the way the last second before getting run over. I haven't seen a snake like that in probably 20 years. I'm sure there are some big ones around but they are rare in my neck of the woods.
2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
deancamp
Posts: 412
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Raymore, MO

They look great and I like the idea of them covering your winch. Good set up and sounds like they are definitely working.
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