Are most landlords #s low

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jhcox
Posts: 494
Joined: Thu May 26, 2016 9:23 am
Location: tennesse
Martin Colony History: Started colony in 2014. First pair to stay and raise young in 2018.

Are a lot of landlords reporting lower numbers of matins so far this year? My binders are still a bit low from this time last year maybe there just a little slower getting here this year not sure just wondering if it’s the same for most landlords or not. Have a good season all and god bless.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 2939
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

My arrivals were the earliest I've ever had so for this time of year I am at higher numbers then I ever have been. I have about 10 ASYs here right now. Normally I don't have any back yet or they are just returning. Weather is going to be tough for them the next week or so in my neck of the woods.
2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
Dave Duit
Posts: 1757
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:02 pm
Location: Iowa / Nevada
Martin Colony History: In 2020, 60 pair with 285 fledged youngsters. 83 total cavities available, 58 Troyer Horizontal gourds and 4 modified deep trio metal house units, 1 fallout shelter, owl cages around all units. Martin educator and speaker. President and founder of the Iowa Purple Martin Organization. Please visit www.iamartin.org and join.

It appears as if my numbers are lacking. But, they will probably increase as time goes by.
Mite control, heat venting, predator protection and additional feeding during bad weather add up to success.
Jim Rockford
Posts: 78
Joined: Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:35 pm
Location: Texas/North Richland Hills

I've seen virtually none in my little corner of North Texas for about 6 years after attracting martins every year for about 5-6 years before the "dry spell". I suspect some kind of local problem or issue -- maybe predators -- because I've seen reports of normal numbers of martins not too far from me.
C.C.Martins
Posts: 814
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA made adjustments and next year was successful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021:
Home colony: mix natural gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 12 gourds: PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021:
PMCA member

Just my 2 cents,
Have good numbers here in corpus an increase of 10 pairs. Visitors come in almost every night, large groups of sub adults now. The martins arrived 10 days early this year.
Neighboring martin houses look good, more than last year...BUT our satelite site continues to lack martins and its only about 1.5 miles away.
Its a waiting game.
Tom
PMCA member, believer in nest checks, venting, SREH and pest/predator protection.
Whippy
Posts: 598
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:15 pm
Location: Plano, Texas
Martin Colony History: 2016 - late to put up, many visitors
2017 - 1 pair, 3 fledged
2018- 2 pair, 12 fledged
2019 - 4 pair, 21 fledged
2020 - 15 pair, 67 fledged

Jim Rockford wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:27 am
I've seen virtually none in my little corner of North Texas for about 6 years after attracting martins every year for about 5-6 years before the "dry spell". I suspect some kind of local problem or issue -- maybe predators -- because I've seen reports of normal numbers of martins not too far from me.

Jim,

That is strange. This is my fifth year here in Plano. Today I am watching about 20 or so flying around trying to get settled in my gourds and my Trio. This is the most I've seen in the 4 previous years total. I've been up to the dam at lake Ray Roberts a few days ago and saw about 40 or so feeding.

I wonder why they chose to ignore your little section of Texas.

Coolwhips
Jim Rockford
Posts: 78
Joined: Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:35 pm
Location: Texas/North Richland Hills

Whippy wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:37 am

I wonder why they chose to ignore your little section of Texas.

Coolwhips
Thanks for the reply, Coolwhips. I wish I knew why they seem to be ignoring this area. I made a separate post on my experience in an effort to solicit replies from others nearby but there haven't been any. I'd chalk it up to my own poor land-lording but I had martins for several years prior to the current "drought" using the same setup as I have now. Moreover, my wife and I walk in a local park with a couple of ponds and we used to see many martins feeding on insects in the area. I haven't seen more than a couple -- one or two -- martins in that park for years.

I chatted up a guy who runs a local store a couple years ago (I bought my Trio setup from him). He used to have a lot of martins himself but they suddenly quit showing up so he just took his house down. He blames peregrine falcons which took up residence in his area. I don't have peregrines around me, but I do have Mississippi kites that have been hanging around for a few years -- perhaps coincidentally starting about the same time the martins stopped coming around.

Good luck to you this season!
jhcox
Posts: 494
Joined: Thu May 26, 2016 9:23 am
Location: tennesse
Martin Colony History: Started colony in 2014. First pair to stay and raise young in 2018.

Thanks everyone for your replies. It kinda looks like a mixed bag of answer some have more some less. Maybe with this warmer weather and a few sunny days ahead they will start moving into my neck of the woods more. I did see a couple Subadults reported on the migration map today in Tennessee so that’s a positive note. Have a great season everyone.
PMDavid
Posts: 418
Joined: Wed May 16, 2018 8:50 pm
Location: Boyce,Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Second year trying to attract martins. This year I am getting rid of the wooden house and showing something they are used to seeing.
Offering 2 trio grandpaws w/2natural gourds under each and C.Abare gourd rack w/16 natural gourds. And one rehabbed 16 compartment Coates original with two natural gourds.Lots of lookers,a few overnighters and daily activity cruising and looking. All gourds have a rain canopy and wire perch.2019 7 pair moving into 2020 almost double pairs from 2019. Still have most of the month of March to go for new arrivals and April.Here late in season seemed to have as many as 18 Pr of nesting birds. Huge upscale in birds from 2019. Will also have a 20 gourd satellite rack prepared for the 2021 season.

JH , this is my second year having birds. I live in central Louisiana. Last year I had 6 pr and this year I have at least 12-14 pr maybe more. Some days they all gang up at once to come in and some days it’s staggered. Two days ago was a gang up day and between pairs and sy singles I’d guess I could say the count was in the mid thirties. So no shortage here. Good luck on more arrivals.
Brad Biddle
Posts: 523
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:22 pm
Location: Marshall County AL

I can't say for sure that my numbers are low, but I think they are lower than normal for this time of year. I have had very few if any arrivals in the past week too. I put up a new gourd rack a week ago, in between two racks that have been at or near capacity for 15 years. I have yet to see a Martin spend the night in one of those gourds. It should be covered up.
Martin landlord since 2003. Currently offering 132 plastic gourds with tunnels and all SREH.
M.Stephens
Posts: 1130
Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:14 pm
Location: Texas/Texarkana

Got plenty here. This was a week ago.

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2015 (110 nesting pair)
2014 (92 nesting pair)
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jhcox
Posts: 494
Joined: Thu May 26, 2016 9:23 am
Location: tennesse
Martin Colony History: Started colony in 2014. First pair to stay and raise young in 2018.

Thanks guys for the up dates. I hope that a few more adults move in before the subadults get here just so they can get a gourd picked out. In 2018 I had one nesting pair and a single adult male that never paired up. Last year I went to 10 pairs. I was really hoping for a good increase like last year. I’ll keep my fingers crossed and keep hoping that it get more here soon. Good luck everyone
tor
Posts: 220
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm
Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: Capacity: 72 Troyers on 3 X Super-24 racks

They came about a week earlier this year here in north-eastern SC. Numbers are the same, about 70 pair.
Location: Marlboro County, SC

2020: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/11 - 71 pair - 298 hatched as of last nest check.
2019: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/22 - 70 pair - 315 fledged
2018: Capacity: 70 - First Scouts: 2/18 - 60 pair - 270 fledged
2017: Capacity: 42 - First Scouts: 2/25 - 39 pair
2016: Capacity: 42 - First Scouts: 3/10 - 32 pair
2015: Capacity: 24 - First Scouts: 3/23 - 4 pair

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