First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

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Bird Brain
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Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:22 am
Location: Highland Village, TX
Martin Colony History: 2017-nothing
2018-couple of visitors
2019-nothing
2020-Removed 2 trees. Raised height of housing. Offering 12 Chirpy Nests, 8 Troyer Verticals, and 4 Troyer Horizontals. Playing Daytime Chatter C.D. this year and added a couple of decoys on rack. Smeared mud around the entrances. Will see what happens.

First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby Bird Brain » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:21 pm

I saw the "SY or ASY founder" survey and I was surprised by the results so far. I would like to know how many pair did landlords get their first year of successful nesters.
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Whippy
Posts: 425
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:15 pm
Location: Plano, Texas
Martin Colony History: 2016 - late to put up, many visitors
2017 - 1 pair, 3 fledged
2018- 2 pair, 12 fledged
2019 - 4 pair, 21 fledged
2020 - ?

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby Whippy » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:02 am

My first year with residents was one pair.

2nd year 2 pair
3rd year 4 pair
4th year - ?

Coolwhips

C.C.Martins
Posts: 796
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged.
2018-18 pair. 85 fledged.
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020:?
Home colony: 17 natural gourds, one 6 compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony Oso bay preserve: 12 gourds: excluder, troyer horizontal, super gourds with tunnels. 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: ?
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Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby C.C.Martins » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:41 am

first year had 5 pair.
Tom

2016- two visitors
2017- 5 pair 15 Fledged
2018-18 pairs 85 Fledged
2019-17 pair 81 fledged
2020:

Satellite location: oso bay preserve 12 gourds, modified trio
2019: Visitors
2020: hopeful!!!

PMDavid
Posts: 377
Joined: Wed May 16, 2018 8:50 pm
Location: Boyce,Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Second year trying to attract martins. This year I am getting rid of the wooden house and showing something they are used to seeing.
Offering 2 trio grandpaws w/2natural gourds under each and C.Abare gourd rack w/16 natural gourds. And one rehabbed 16 compartment Coates original with two natural gourds.Lots of lookers,a few overnighters and daily activity cruising and looking. All gourds have a rain canopy and wire perch.2019 7 pair moving into 2020 almost double pairs from 2019. Still have most of the month of March to go for new arrivals and April.

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby PMDavid » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:50 am

First year = 1 lone bird AKA the “nut”
Second year = 7 pr.
This being the 3rd year hope to see increase or at least maintain the same.

deancamp
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Location: Raymore, MO

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby deancamp » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:03 am

After more tha 10 years of trying, I had 6pair the first year they nested.

SMJohnson
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Location: IA/Ottumwa

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby SMJohnson » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:42 am

1st 13
2cd 52
3rd 65
2012-13 Pair 2013-52 Pair 2014-65 Pair 2015-85 Pair 2016-80 Pair 2017-93 Pair 2018-87 Pair 2019-102 Pair
148 compartments 72 Troyer Horz. 24 Troyer Vert. 52 Wooden

Badger
Posts: 29
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:37 pm
Location: Shenandoah Valley VA
Martin Colony History: Martin landlord since 2016. 32 super gourds all with crescent openings and porches.

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby Badger » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:37 am

I had 4 pair to nest my first year. I had 10 adults total. The 2nd and third year I had 40 adults and 26 pair to nest. About 110 to survive and fledged. If the Martin's like your set up the colony can grow rapid.

Dave Duit
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Location: state:Iowa / town:Nevada
Martin Colony History: In 2019, 54 pair with 218 fledged youngsters. 83 total compartments available, 58 Troyer Horizontal gourds and 4 modified trio metal house units, owl cages around all units. Martin educator and speaker. President of the Iowa Purple Martin Organization. Please visit www.iamartin.org and join.

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby Dave Duit » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:39 am

1st year = one pair
today = 54 pair
Mite control, heat venting, predator protection and additional feeding during bad weather add up to success.

flyin-lowe
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Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby flyin-lowe » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:19 am

At my original colony I had a lone SY male stay one season and did not attract a mate. The next year he returned and paired up and attracted for additional SY pair ( 5 pair total). At my second (current) colony I had a couple times on and off with one pair then nothing the next. Both places it was 5 years before I ended up with an established sustainable colony.
2020 (HOSP Count 2)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Brad Biddle
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Location: Marshall County AL

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby Brad Biddle » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:28 am

At current colony 4 pair
At old house one pair then none the 2nd year
Martin landlord since 2003. Currently offering 132 plastic gourds with tunnels and all SREH.

jhcox
Posts: 424
Joined: Thu May 26, 2016 9:23 am
Location: tennesse
Martin Colony History: Started colony in 2014. First pair to stay and raise young in 2018.

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby jhcox » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:32 am

First year had one adult stay all summer and never found a mate. Second year he found a mate fledged five. Third year had 10 pair hope that it goes up again this year.

randyM
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Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:30 pm
Location: Long Lake SD
Martin Colony History: Had 2 wooden and 1 plastic house up since 2004. Added plastic gourds to housing in June of 2015, had SY male stay for 3 weeks. Had lots of late visitors during late fall migration while playing martin chatter CD. Added more decoys and multiple styles of plastic gourds to my spread in 2016...it worked - 1 pair (ASYM + SYF) fledged both young that hatched!! S & S control done studiously every year.

2017 - 4 nesting pairs, 16/17 eggs hatched and all 16 young banded and fledged. Also had 5 extra SY males and 1 SY female stay during the nesting season.

2018 - 10 nesting pairs (7 ASYM, 3 SYM & 3 ASYF, 7 SYF), 52 eggs, 46 hatched, 45 fledged, 29 banded. Two banded males from 2017 hatch returned home. One successfully nested, the other stayed a few weeks and left.

2019 - 32 nests, 160 eggs - 25 ASYM & 7 SYM. The two males banded in 2017 again returned home now in ASY plumage, and two SY females and one SY male banded in 2018 returned in 2019. 87 HY banded in 2019.

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby randyM » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:58 pm

1 ASY/SY pair in 2006
0 pair 2007-2016
1 ASY/SY pair in 2016
4 pair in 2017
10 pair in 2018
32 pair in 2019
Hoping for 50 pair in 2020

Dave Reynolds
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Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2018 Success at my Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2019 Success at my home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby Dave Reynolds » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:02 am

... My first year was last year... 1 pair...
.... But I had 15 pair the first year at my satellite site..

Dave
Home Site “Little Hocking, Ohio”
2010 / 2018 -- Lots of Visitors
2019 — First pair, 5 Eggs, 5 hatched, 5 fledged. :wink:
2020 — They are on the way. :wink:

Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”
2018 -- 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 38 Hatched and 36 Fledged :wink:
2019 — 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 99 Hatched and 97 Fledged. :wink:
2020 — They are on the way. :wink:

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ShawnK
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Location: IN/Owensville

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby ShawnK » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:26 am

My first year I had 14 pair. They must been have been displaced or I'm in a flight path. I don't know but I was astounded.
2013 - 0
2014 - 0 Some lookers but no takers
2015 - three males attempted attracting a mate 1 ASY and 2 SY
2016 - became a landlord with 14 pair
2017 - 36 pr
2018 - 52 pr
2019 - 54 pr

Black Jack
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Joined: Mon May 06, 2019 4:37 pm
Location: NC

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby Black Jack » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:58 am

1 PR of SY

EarlG
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Location: Lindale, TX

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby EarlG » Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:11 am

First year 2013, 1 pair, 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 Fledged.
2018 24 Pair, 130 Eggs, 102 Hatched, 83 Fledged
2017 20 Pair, 121 Eggs, 87 Hatched, 86 Fledged
2016 23 Pair, 122 Eggs, 107 Hatched, 101 Fledged
2015 16 Pair, 82 Eggs, 70 Hatched, 68 Fledged
2014 11 Pair, 38 Fledged
2013 1 Pair, 5 Fledged

detioh11
Posts: 49
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:24 pm
Location: St Johns, MI
Martin Colony History: 2015 A few Visitors
2016 1 ASY pair 4 eggs 4 Fledged
2017 ASY male returned chased off by starlings
2018 1 pair fledged 5
2019 3 Pair with nestlings and an ASY male bachelor and 2 SY males around all the time fledged 16

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby detioh11 » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:37 pm

1 pair first year
0 pair second year
1 pair third year
3 pair fourth year.

cary-nw-fla
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Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:27 pm
Location: Holt, Florida

Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby cary-nw-fla » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:57 pm

Put up my first housing in 2010. Lookers till 2012 when I had 8 pair.
2010/2011: 0 / 2012: 8 Pair / 2013: 22 Pair / 2014: 35 Pair / 2015: 39 Pair / 2016: 73 Pair / 2017: 94 Pair
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Joe W
Posts: 49
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:04 am
Location: FL/Lynn Haven (near Panama City, FL)
Martin Colony History: 2019 finally success! 8 pairs
Oct 10, 2018 Hurricane Michael
2018 visitors in April
2017 visitors in April
2016 visitors in April
2015 visitors in June
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Re: First Year Success Survey. How Many Pair?

Postby Joe W » Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:54 pm

Northwest Florida. First year was last year (2019), had 8 pair. This after 4 straight years of trying. So far this year there are 3 pair and nest building has started. Hoping for more, first arrivals were two weeks ago.


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