Horizontal Pipe Gourd

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TerryW
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Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby TerryW » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:52 pm

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My old creation, the horizontal pipe gourd: you can make these for pretty cheap. They are very strong and will last you a long time. When I did martins about 10 years ago these were immediately occupied the next season after I put them up in my already established colony and they were occupied every year until I quit, three years running. I have them back up now, hopefully I will get a start of martins quickly.

Made from 4" dia thin-wall pvc pipe, 8" dia thin-wall pvc pipe, and 1/8" thick Sintra foam pvc. You don't need much other than a hand saw, jig saw, drill and drill bits, and some glue. Well maybe a couple of other things, the entry and a clean-out port.

flyin-lowe
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby flyin-lowe » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:07 pm

I can't tell from the picture, how do you mount them to your rack? Also do you know about how much each one cost to make? Thanks
2020 (HOSP Count 2)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
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Spiderman
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby Spiderman » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:16 pm

How did you connect the 4" & 8" pipe together?

Doesn't look like a collar or changeover bushing.
2008 - 33 PAIR - FLEDGED 96 YOUNG
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2012 - 37 PAIR - 119 HATCHED, 101 FLEDGED

TerryW
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby TerryW » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:59 am

This pic is old and was taken before I hung them. I drill two holes just large enough to accept the 14 gage insulated electrical wire that most everybody uses with gourd racks, one near the rear and one near the front by the entrance. I wad up one end of each piece of cable so it won't pull through the hole and dangle them from those two holes, like one would do with Troyer horizontal gourds.

It has been a few years ago, and I don't know what pvc pipe costs these days, but the thin-walled stuff is probably still pretty cheap. I would guess material cost would be no more than 6 or 7 dollars, certainly single digit cost. I can't count my labor because old retired guys work for free... :)

I used PVC cement and Alex plus paintable silicone caulk, but they don't need paint. I never use 100% silicone if there is any possibility of needing paint at some later date; 100% silicone won't take paint. Did some checking and found the 8" thin wall no longer comes in white so the 8" dia piece would need white paint (that will stick to plastic, water-base won't, at least not very well).

TerryW
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby TerryW » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:40 pm

Hmmm...Spiderman, there is an annular piece of 1/4" thick Sintra whose ID fits the small dia pipe's OD, and the annular piece has an OD that is probably 3/4" larger than the pipe OD. This is glued to both the small dia pipe and the large flat circle of Sintra plate that closes off the entrance side of the 8" pipe. Probably best to just use 1/4" thick Sintra for all the flat pieces, then you wouldn't have to buy a piece of 1/8" thick sheet of Sintra. Actually the Sintra is sold in mm thicknesses. I chose the a thickness that is just under 1/4" thick, and if I buy 1/8" Sintra, it will be the mm size that is also just under 1/8". Hope this is clearer than muddy water.

deancamp
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby deancamp » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:42 pm

That's a cool looking pipe gourd. Good work.

MartinBro
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby MartinBro » Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:49 pm

Pipe gourd is a good name for it. It looks like you can smoke somethin in them gourds. I wouldn't want to get pulled over with them gourds in the back seat. Step out of the car. It's only a bird house, officer, I promise.

Fuzzmeister
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby Fuzzmeister » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:06 am

TerryW
On the 8 inch peice of pipe what did you use for the end caps on the back and where the 4 inch goes into the 8 inch?

TerryW
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby TerryW » Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:16 am

Hey Fuzzneister!

Front plate (entrance side): I used 1/4" Sintra Foam PVC (comes in mm thicknesses, is actually 6mm thickness which is just under 1/4", used in signboard industry, is considerably lighter than conventional PVC. Google it.

Rear plate: Ditto except 3mm thick which is just under 1/8" thick. I could have used 1/4" just fine. I used the 3mm stuff because I already had it for making my SREH entrances, and lightness is an objective.

In sawing this stuff using a saber saw, use a fine blade so it won't chip as much. A liberal amount of silicone impregnated caulk covers up chipped places nicely.

Fuzzmeister
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby Fuzzmeister » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:51 pm

Terry
Thank you I got it now! I think I will have to try making one of these to see how it works.

ShawnK
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby ShawnK » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:40 pm

My dad made something similar to yours Terry years ago. He must have had around 50 of them. They were thin wall 6" PVC pipe 15" long.
He made his with a coat of flat black paint on the inside to cut down on the heat from sunlight penetrating.
His did not have a clean out so he just used a coat hanger wire bent into a hook on one end and drug out what he could through the entrance holes. He used those for years before switching to S&K BO9 gourds. He gave me a few of them and the martins love them. My dad hung his the same way Terry described his. I think my dad has around 70 gourds at his site and he will be 79 old this April with nearly 100% occupancy with his S&K gourds.
2013 - 0
2014 - 0 Some lookers but no takers
2015 - three males attempted attracting a mate 1 ASY and 2 SY
2016 - became a landlord with 14 pair
2017 - 36 pr
2018 - 52 pr
2019 - 54 pr

Brad Biddle
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby Brad Biddle » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:38 pm

Terry I remember you and Thurman Seber both making those things back several years ago. I don't know how I avoided making any as it seems like anything y'all did I thought I had to do too. LOL
Martin landlord since 2003. Currently offering 132 plastic gourds with tunnels and all SREH.

TerryW
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby TerryW » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:22 pm

Enjoyed you guy's comments. I guess Thurman is still around?

To anybody who makes them, may you have good luck with it and success! Mine are in the air, and I can put more pics up if desired. I'd give you some Excluder II entrances, but PMCA might sue my you know what... :lol:

TerryW
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Re: Horizontal Pipe Gourd

Postby TerryW » Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:44 am

Here's one hanging in the air, current time.
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