house sparrow total control

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gray fox
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house sparrow total control

Postby gray fox » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:58 pm

Even a few house sparrows around are destroying blue birds and tree swallows and keeping them from nesting. Here at home I can maintain total control. I don't have cattle feed etc. around. No other buildings like the farmer has at the martin and blue bird tree swallow location up the road. I would like a answer . Thanks for any suggestions.

flyin-lowe
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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby flyin-lowe » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:59 pm

I'm not exactly sure what it is you are asking??
2020 (HOSP Count 6)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

gray fox
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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby gray fox » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:13 am

adult house sparrows most of the time avoid the traps.There the ones killing blue birds and tree swallows. So far they haven't attacked the nesting martins.

Archer
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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby Archer » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:42 am

What kind of traps do you have? Are you able to shoot?
2011- first year trying, a few visitors.
2012-One ASY pair, raised two young, lots of subby visitors. So thankfull.
2013-daily subby visits.
2014-Six SY pairs
2015-18 pair, 83 fledglings
2016-36 pair, 147 fledglings
2017-52 pairs, 192 fledglings.
2018-60 pair, 246 fledglings.
2019-59 pair, 238 fledglings.

Conrad Baker
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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby Conrad Baker » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:47 am

You have to control the Sparrows from the beginning (like now). Once they take over your houses, it's too late-The Martins will probably be looking elsewhere to live because they can't compete with the Sparrows. Trap them or shoot them.
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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby deancamp » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:44 am

PMDavid posted a repeating trap build that has been working well for him. From the comments it sounds like it can be baited with food or nesting material depending on when your trapping.

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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby PMDavid » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:58 am

Gray fox if you will check you tube for.....

How to build a sparrow trap by bruntdog, it will have three videos ..parts 1,2,and 3. They are live step by step,the materials needed are minimal. I actually “found” everything I needed for free! If you need some clarification on any of it post on here,I’ll be checking and I’ll explain. It was pretty easy to build .....you can do it. Then you’ll have one of your own.
David

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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby MartinBro » Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:31 am

Do you have total control or not ? Are you asking how to control the farmers sparrows up the road ? I'm confused.

gray fox
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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby gray fox » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:09 am

Dave T would like to try brunt dogs trap?

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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby gray fox » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:03 pm

Gray fox would like to try brunt dogs trap.

gray fox
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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby gray fox » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:58 am

Would clutter in repeating sparrow trap help attract h.s. more than just feed?

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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby deancamp » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:34 am

If food is not getting the job done, put nesting materials in during their nesting period. Long grass stems, feathers and the like.

flyin-lowe
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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby flyin-lowe » Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:50 pm

What kind of housing do you have, I have my best luck with insert traps in my T14. Especially before the martins arrive, I can block everything else off and catch them all day long early season.
2020 (HOSP Count 6)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

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Re: house sparrow total control

Postby KathyF » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:40 pm

Use a nestbox trap to trap the HOSP in the bluebird / tree swall housing, then throw the trapped HOSP into a repeater trap.

You need 2 traps: one like this: https://www.purplemartin.org/shop/produ ... d-housing/

and a repeating trap like this: https://www.purplemartin.org/shop/produ ... bait-trap/
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2015 - 76 pair
2014 - 75 pair
2013 - 75 pair
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