Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

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Bird Brain
Posts: 135
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:22 am
Location: Highland Village, TX
Martin Colony History: 2017-nothing
2018-couple of visitors
2019-nothing
2020-Removed 2 trees. Raised height of housing. Offering 12 Chirpy Nests, 8 Troyer Verticals, and 4 Troyer Horizontals. Playing Daytime Chatter C.D. this year and added a couple of decoys on rack. Smeared mud around the entrances. Will see what happens.

Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby Bird Brain » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:44 pm

4'th year coming up trying to get that first pair. Finally decided to cut down the largest tree in my yard. The tree was 40 feet from martin pole but was 60 feet tall and 50 feet wide. It was definitely a hawk magnet. I watched a hawk launch from this tree once and hit a decoy. I cut this tree down because it was damaging my shed and the roots were getting into my sewer line. It was a Hackberry, which I'm not fond of. I'm hoping to realize a martin attraction benefit as a result of this decision. My setup actually falls within Chuck Abare's location guidelines now. "No tree closer to the martin pole than the tree is tall," I believe he says. Now I have 3 open flyways instead of 2. My pole is 18 inches higher than last year as a result of the winch upgrade I added. I've added 12 chirpy nests for 2020 for variety and a total of 24 cavities offered. Going to play "dawn song," and "daytime chatter," this year. Thinking about adding decoys also. Here's a couple of before and after pics. Wish me luck.

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Conrad Baker
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Location: Paulina, Louisiana

Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby Conrad Baker » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:54 pm

Good Luck !! I hope that helps make the Martins feel safer. Please excuse my ignorance, but what is that object on the pole between your housing setup and the tree??

Bird Brain
Posts: 135
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:22 am
Location: Highland Village, TX
Martin Colony History: 2017-nothing
2018-couple of visitors
2019-nothing
2020-Removed 2 trees. Raised height of housing. Offering 12 Chirpy Nests, 8 Troyer Verticals, and 4 Troyer Horizontals. Playing Daytime Chatter C.D. this year and added a couple of decoys on rack. Smeared mud around the entrances. Will see what happens.

Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby Bird Brain » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:03 pm

It's a rocket box bat house. It's been occupied for 3 years now. They're a lot of fun to watch. They arrive about the same time as martins.
Every time I kill a house sparrow, I make the world a better place.

tor
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Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm
Location: Marlboro County, SC
Martin Colony History: Capacity: 72 Troyers on 3 X Super-24 racks

Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby tor » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:49 am

Wow, thats what I call dedication. Good luck on the upcoming season.
Location: Marlboro County, SC

2020: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/11
2019: Capacity: 72 - First Scouts: 2/22 - 70 pair - 315 fledged
2018: Capacity: 70 - First Scouts: 2/18 - 60 pair - 270 fledged
2017: Capacity: 42 - First Scouts: 2/25 - 39 pair
2016: Capacity: 42 - First Scouts: 3/10 - 32 pair
2015: Capacity: 24 - First Scouts: 3/23 - 4 pair

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steve r
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Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby steve r » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:28 am

What are the boxes on the pole with the gourds?

Conrad Baker
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Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby Conrad Baker » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:16 am

It's a rocket box bat house. It's been occupied for 3 years now. They're a lot of fun to watch. They arrive about the same time as martins.
Thanks. You usually see the bat houses mounted under the eaves of houses, never saw one out in the open.

Dave Reynolds
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Martin Colony History: 2018 Success at my Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2019 Success at my home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".

Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby Dave Reynolds » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:25 am

.. Bird Brain ..... Now that should help out a lot... Trees that size is what I had to deal with too.. The more open the area the better.. ... ... .... :grin: :grin: :grin: .. Good Luck in 2020

Dave
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C.C.Martins
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Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged.
2018-18 pair. 85 fledged.
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020:?
Home colony: 17 natural gourds, one 6 compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony Oso bay preserve: 12 gourds: excluder, troyer horizontal, super gourds with tunnels. 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: ?
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Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby C.C.Martins » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:46 am

Definite improvement, must have been quite a chore.

The bat house has me intrigued, how long did it take to attract them? Iv been looking at bat houses all morning 😀
Tom

2016- two visitors
2017- 5 pair 15 Fledged
2018-18 pairs 85 Fledged
2019-17 pair 81 fledged
2020:

Satellite location: oso bay preserve 12 gourds, modified trio
2019: Visitors
2020: hopeful!!!

C.C.Martins
Posts: 788
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged.
2018-18 pair. 85 fledged.
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020:?
Home colony: 17 natural gourds, one 6 compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony Oso bay preserve: 12 gourds: excluder, troyer horizontal, super gourds with tunnels. 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: ?
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Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby C.C.Martins » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:03 am

It's a rocket box bat house. It's been occupied for 3 years now. They're a lot of fun to watch. They arrive about the same time as martins.
There are alot to choose from, i think ill try the flat type that hugs the house...will put it on my chimney!
Tom

2016- two visitors
2017- 5 pair 15 Fledged
2018-18 pairs 85 Fledged
2019-17 pair 81 fledged
2020:

Satellite location: oso bay preserve 12 gourds, modified trio
2019: Visitors
2020: hopeful!!!

flyin-lowe
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Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby flyin-lowe » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:14 am

There is a pretty good bat house forum out there (some of the same members as here). In some ways bat houses are like martin houses, that shape, size, design, location, are very important and often times the ones that you can buy at a store locally are not sufficient. Bat populations in my area are taking a huge hit due to white nose syndrome. I have built and erected 6 or 7 houses in various locations over the last 10 years or so and none have been occupied. Thought about trying a rocket box style just to change it up a little bit.
2020 (HOSP Count 2)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

C.C.Martins
Posts: 788
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged.
2018-18 pair. 85 fledged.
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020:?
Home colony: 17 natural gourds, one 6 compartment house. All SREH.
Satelite colony Oso bay preserve: 12 gourds: excluder, troyer horizontal, super gourds with tunnels. 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: ?
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Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby C.C.Martins » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:24 pm

flyin-lowe,
wow, looked them up and your right...dedicated to their bats. Looks like good resource. Thank you.
Tom

2016- two visitors
2017- 5 pair 15 Fledged
2018-18 pairs 85 Fledged
2019-17 pair 81 fledged
2020:

Satellite location: oso bay preserve 12 gourds, modified trio
2019: Visitors
2020: hopeful!!!

Bird Brain
Posts: 135
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:22 am
Location: Highland Village, TX
Martin Colony History: 2017-nothing
2018-couple of visitors
2019-nothing
2020-Removed 2 trees. Raised height of housing. Offering 12 Chirpy Nests, 8 Troyer Verticals, and 4 Troyer Horizontals. Playing Daytime Chatter C.D. this year and added a couple of decoys on rack. Smeared mud around the entrances. Will see what happens.

Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby Bird Brain » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:45 pm

When shopping for a bat house, multiply the 3 dimensions to determine the total cubic inches of space, the bigger the better. Rocket boxes will break the wind better than the flat kind, resulting is less swaying. Flat side style bat houses are the best choice for building mounts. Rocket boxes do not require the purchase of a mounting bracket. Choose rough cut red cedar or pine with no plastic netting. Bat urine will eventually warp plywood. Pole mounts are more noticeable/obvious and likely to be discovered sooner than wall mounts IMO. Pole mounts offer better viewing shows. The night sky background behind a pole mount enhances bat viewing significantly. Such a background will never exist with a wall or chimney mount. Whatever mount you choose, the higher the bat house, the more likely it will be discovered. My pole is 17 feet high. My bat house became occupied in 6 months with only a few bats. My first maternity colony occurred the following year. Typically, bat house population will double every year until there is no more space.
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TomBrake
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Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby TomBrake » Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:14 am

What are the boxes on the pole with the gourds?
Steve
Those are ChirpyNest houses.

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Re: Removed 60 Foot Tree for 2020. Before and After Pics

Postby TomBrake » Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:16 am

4'th year coming up trying to get that first pair. Finally decided to cut down the largest tree in my yard. The tree was 40 feet from martin pole but was 60 feet tall and 50 feet wide. It was definitely a hawk magnet. I watched a hawk launch from this tree once and hit a decoy. I cut this tree down because it was damaging my shed and the roots were getting into my sewer line. It was a Hackberry, which I'm not fond of. I'm hoping to realize a martin attraction benefit as a result of this decision. My setup actually falls within Chuck Abare's location guidelines now. "No tree closer to the martin pole than the tree is tall," I believe he says. Now I have 3 open flyways instead of 2. My pole is 18 inches higher than last year as a result of the winch upgrade I added. I've added 12 chirpy nests for 2020 for variety and a total of 24 cavities offered. Going to play "dawn song," and "daytime chatter," this year. Thinking about adding decoys also. Here's a couple of before and after pics. Wish me luck.

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That setup looks awesome. Keep me posted on your success.

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