Any body still have PM to fledge

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Fuzzmeister
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Any body still have PM to fledge

Postby Fuzzmeister » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:29 pm

Hi
I was wondering how many still have chicks to fledge? I have three pairs left, one family will fledge any day and the other two will be at least a week.

randyM
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Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:30 pm
Location: Long Lake SD
Martin Colony History: Had 2 wooden and 1 plastic house up since 2004. Added plastic gourds to housing in June of 2015, had SY male stay for 3 weeks. Had lots of late visitors during late fall migration while playing martin chatter CD. Added more decoys and multiple styles of plastic gourds to my spread in 2016...it worked - 1 pair (ASYM + SYF) fledged both young that hatched!! S & S control done studiously every year.

2017 - 4 nesting pairs, 16/17 eggs hatched and all 16 young banded and fledged. Also had 5 extra SY males and 1 SY female stay during the nesting season.

2018 - 10 nesting pairs (7 ASYM, 3 SYM & 3 ASYF, 7 SYF), 52 eggs, 46 hatched, 45 fledged, 29 banded. Two banded males from 2017 hatch returned home. One successfully nested, the other stayed a few weeks and left.

2019 - 32 nests, 160 eggs - 25 ASYM & 7 SYM. The two males banded in 2017 again returned home now in ASY plumage, and two SY females and one SY male banded in 2018 returned in 2019. 87 HY banded in 2019.

Re: Any body still have PM to fledge

Postby randyM » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:48 pm

I have one more pair of SY matins that have 4 nestlings that will be 29 days old tomorrow. Two of them fledged today, but it was cold (65 F) and windy (25 mph) all day long. Both sat on a perch on an adjacent martin house for a few hours but flew back into their nest cavity to join their siblings to stay warm. It is supposed to be calm and warmer tomorrow, so I assume all will fledge tomorrow. I know of another colony in northern SD which has one more nest scheduled to fledged on the 15th. The nesting season is certainly nearing its end. My last tree swallow nest fledged yesterday, a handful of barn swallows are half way to fledging but still have a few house wren nests with eggs!

Fuzzmeister
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Re: Any body still have PM to fledge

Postby Fuzzmeister » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:42 am

Randy
Every year is different, last year my martins were gone with in the first few days of August this year that same house of martins was gone By the 25 of July. I built and installed another house this year which has 3 pairs that are still going to take a week to fledge, I had read a article that said the older your colony’s get they will come earlier every year and leave earlier, I have only been a landlord for 2 years now so I will have to wait and see if that is true.

C.C.Martins
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Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged.
2018-18 pair. 85 fledged.
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
Home colony: 12 natural gourds, one modified house. 18 cavities in total.
PMCA member

Re: Any body still have PM to fledge

Postby C.C.Martins » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:08 am

Randy thats interesting, year before last the ASYs and SYs fledged out late july (year before that they came around late april-no real historical data as that was my first year and the birds probaly came from a displaced home). This year it was earlier by about 3 weeks. I remember because of my notes but especially 4th of july im always a bit worried about the fireworks bugging them. Not this year.
2018 they arrived 23 feb. 2019 they arrived 14 feb.
Im going to save some cavities for the subbies this year, but i suspect they will start laying when those around them do.
Tom

2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 Fledged
2018-18 pairs. 85 Fledged.
2019-17 pair. 81 fledged.
Offering: 12 natural gourds, w/crescents and WDC openings. 6 modified compartment house, crescents with tunnels.

Ed Pace
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Location: NY/Jamestown

Re: Any body still have PM to fledge

Postby Ed Pace » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:24 pm

I have a late nest, ASYM and SYF that have three youngsters two of which fledged today the 14th and I am expecting the last one to fledge tomorrow or the next day. It's neat to watch the parents feed the two outside the nest sometimes in a tree sometimes in flight and then go back and feed the single one in the nest ,they're really good parents but I'm sure they're itching to leave. It's been a long season but still way too short ,good luck next year. Ed.

handyman315
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Joined: Thu May 12, 2016 11:03 am
Location: SW Ohio
Martin Colony History: Colony established May 20, 2017 after three unsuccessful years. Persistent and aggressive Tree Swallows plagued the site, but beyond learning - and practicing - to control them, was the return in 2017 of a 2016-SY-M previously unable to find a mate. As a handsome ASY-M, he brought along two females and a swagger that soon put the Tree Swallow issue to rest. As the anchor pair, he and his mate hatched all six of their eggs into fat and healthy babies into what settled in to be a three-pair, flourishing new colony with up to 11 birds total, including 3 SY-M trouble makers.

Re: Any body still have PM to fledge

Postby handyman315 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:45 am

Seemed to be one especially late brood this season here in SW Ohio. Here are my notes for the last couple weeks; was trying to pay closer attention this year at departure time:

2019 Departure

Monday, August 5, 2019
Some of the Martins are still here. Spotted about 20 this morning at 10:00 a.m. One family is still feeding a late nest of babies – Gourd 8.
The rest of the 20+ could have been made up of a few visitors for the “fledge party”. Pretty quiet around here most of the day.
Clearly several of the Martins have already left.

August 8, 2019
One pair still feeding some late babies – Gourd 8.
And Maverick is still buzzing the tower! 
About 3 or 4 Martins seen this morning, up until about noon.

August 14
Morning - Maybe 30 or 40 Martins early morning, clearly trying to entice the last baby out of Gourd 8, raucous bunch, looking in gourds, hopping, flapping, flying.

Evening/Night – Not a single Martin. Gourd 8 looks empty, all Martins seem to be gone. Will check again tomorrow morning, but this appears to be the last day for Martins in 2019. Very quiet . . .

August 15,
No Martins.
2019- 19 Nesting Pair Fledged 84 babies. The Pattern is Full.
2018-ASY-M Arrived April 6, Despite Snow & Cold, Joined Soon by Mate & Two Adult Pairs, Season of 11 Nests W/48 Babies
2017-FIRST-YEAR LANDLORD! :grin: Resident SY-M from 2016 Returned (as ASY-M) on May 20. At Least 11 Resident PMs, with 13 Fledged from Three Nests and Operated a Daily Flying Circus :grin:
2016-Late-Arriving SYs, Resident Lone SY-M, Unable to Find Mate
2015 & 2014-Many Visits

Curtis Reil
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Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:51 pm
Location: Alberta/Tofield
Martin Colony History: I inherited this colony when I purchased the property from my Great Uncle. To the best of my knowledge, he had hosted Martins since 1977. Housing consisted of three twelve compartment units that he had built. Small compartments, round holes and no way to lower for managing. There were maybe 6-8 pairs here when we moved in. Through reading up on information provided by the PMCA and that provided to me by Bob Buskas, the decision was made to upgrade the housing. We are now fully switched over to North Star houses and hosted 58 pairs this season(2017). 60 compartments open for business and being so close to 100% occupancy, I believe we may expand housing offered next season. Expansion will continue contingent to high occupancy, being able to keep up on management and or until it starts to feel like work.

Re: Any body still have PM to fledge

Postby Curtis Reil » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:58 am

I’m in the Edmonton, AB area. More often than not, everybody has hit the road by August 16th which is my birthday. Sort of anticlimactic. But we’ve still got 20 or so martins hanging around and I’ve got four nests yet to fledge. These remaining nests should all be fledging over the next eight days. I’m not complaining as we get to enjoy them for a little longer than the norm.

Martin man RI
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Re: Any body still have PM to fledge

Postby Martin man RI » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:03 pm

1 pair in Barrington Rhode Island (Fledged today)
1 pair Rehoboth Massachusetts (fledge time 8/28) Excellent season for the northeast Many chicks produced. Most years the last Martins
exit the area around labor day. The main flock left first week of Aug. Im sure many are in New Jersey at the roost along
the maurice river in Cumberland County. One pair came back to roost and all fledged mom and dad with them what a great site.
i will miss them and see them back in early April. I will be in FLA in two weeks Vacation and will be looking for south bound birds.
Cannot wait. Hope i see some large flocks.

Ray


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