Pole for T-14

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Buckdog122
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Location: Somerset, Ohio

Pole for T-14

Postby Buckdog122 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:36 am

Hey all, I have been in the midst of building a T-14 and was wondering what pole and length you may have used on your setup. I’m amazed at how heavy the house is going to be and was just curious what you all were using. Thanks for the advice!
Buckdog

Hanover Bill
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Joined: Thu May 14, 2009 3:10 pm
Location: Pennsylvania/Hanover Township
Martin Colony History: 2009 & 10 - 0
2011 & 12 - Visitors
2013 - 2 pr. fledged 9
2014 - 3 pr. fledged 13
2015 - 7 pr. fledged 27
2016 - 15 pr. fledged 72

Re: Pole for T-14

Postby Hanover Bill » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:33 am

I used a two inch square highway sign post, the kind with holes about an inch or two apart on all four sides. It has been up for 6 years and no issues yet. It has survived some pretty good Western Pa. severe thunderstorms.

You are right about the weight of the T-14, it is a heavy one. Probably the best advice would be to go as strong as you can.

Hanover Bill.
2009 & 10 - 0
2011 & 12 - Visitors
2013 - 2 pr. fledged 9
2014 - 3 pr. fledged 13
2015 - 7 pr. fledged 27
2016 - 15 pr. fledged 72

daveh
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Location: Kingsville Mo.

Re: Pole for T-14

Postby daveh » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:46 am

I built the laminated post that was in the Troyer's T-14 plan booklet. That was in 05. Still in use today. Straight as an arrow.

Dave
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GFB
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Joined: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:05 pm
Location: Ontario NY
Martin Colony History: I Started my first colony with my father in the late 1960's. Started building custom vinyl Martin houses last year 2018 and was successful with 10 birds fledged and it looks like several dozen birds are hanging around. Time to expand.
2018: 1 T-14 and 6 gourds. Fledged 10
2019: 2 T-14's and 6 gourds. Fledged 70

Re: Pole for T-14

Postby GFB » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:17 am

I've been using schedule 40 galvanized pipe that was delivered from my local hardware store. Its 21 foot long, survived 60 MPH gusts and I never have problem with twisting of the houses. Check (DIY winch) post that that came out around February to see a picture. My houses are around 80 pounds and I never had to lower it in high winds. Also on that post you can check out other ideas from landlords.

Buckdog122
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Location: Somerset, Ohio

Re: Pole for T-14

Postby Buckdog122 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:44 am

Thanks for the Quick responses! I’m working on the houses now in the garage and have a half dozen Martins singing their heads off so that’s pretty cool!
I have the boxes built and am starting on the roofs. I’m pretty excited to get it built an up. Since this was my first year of success I can’t wait to see how next year goes with my own built house. Thanks all

Advice always welcome!
Buckdog

rrmartins
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Location: Round Rock, TX

Re: Pole for T-14

Postby rrmartins » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:41 pm

Sch.80 steel pipe.
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

Dave Reynolds
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Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2018 Success at my Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2019 Success at my home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".

Re: Pole for T-14

Postby Dave Reynolds » Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:24 pm

.. Buckdog122 ... My T-14 is on a sandwich type wooden post,, It is made of two 2X6 and a 1X6 in the middle.. Been up since 2010, still in great shape... Good luck on what ever pole you choose,, And good luck on next years season..

Dave
Home Site “Little Hocking, Ohio”
2010 / 2018 -- Lots of Visitors
2019 — First pair, 5 Eggs, 5 hatched, 5 fledged. :wink:
2020 — They are on the way. :wink:

Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”
2018 -- 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 38 Hatched and 36 Fledged :wink:
2019 — 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 99 Hatched and 97 Fledged. :wink:
2020 — They are on the way. :wink:

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daveh
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Location: Kingsville Mo.

Re: Pole for T-14

Postby daveh » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:49 pm

Dave, that's the post I built in 05 for my T14. Again, it's in the Troyer plan book. The secret in laminating is that the treated lumber that's being used is dry. Also use a good waterproof glue like Titebond III or Gorilla Glue. And use lots of it on all sides. I think I stored the wood in the garage for several months before using. I also turned the lumber occasionally so that it would all dry at the same time.

Dave
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mwren
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Location: OH/Athens
Martin Colony History: I have had my martin colony on the dam of one of my ponds for nine years. The colony has grown each year, but I am now concentrating on helping friends and acquaintances who have shown interests in martins. My colony consists of three T-14's with 8 Troyer gourds attatched to each T-14, a Troyer gourd rack with 12 gourds, and another gourd rack with 18 Troyer gourds for a total of 96 nest cavities. I am having serious predation issues with hawks and owls and am experimenting with various hawk guards and "screens". Established successful supplemental feeding last season during late march and had a blast flipping mostly meal worms and some crickets. Faculty from Ohio University are using my colony as a research site to study parasites that target cavity nesting birds. In exchange for access to my bird trail nest boxes and martin housing, they are banding all birds involved in their study.

Re: Pole for T-14

Postby mwren » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:41 pm

Buckdog......I noticed your location as southeastern Ohio. I can reccomend a source close by for pole and winch set-up for T-14's. Near Jackson, Ohio is a large greenhouse southeast of town called Four Mile Greenhouse. Robert Miller is the owner of this wonderful greenhouse and also has a thriving martin colony on his grounds. He stocks the Amish built T-14's, as well as the posts and the winch set up, with perchs on the top. The poles are powder-coated. Make a visit to see Robert and your questions about posts for T-14's will be answered.

"Bird"
Mike "Bird" Wren

flyin-lowe
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Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Re: Pole for T-14

Postby flyin-lowe » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:24 pm

I have two of them I built myself. Both of them are on a 3 1/2 (OD) galvanized steel pipe. I think they are commonly used as some type of water pipe. The first one I bought from a contractor friend of mine. The one I got this year was from a local scrap yard. Both were 20 foot long, I put four foot in the ground leaving 16 foot above ground. Both of them have a wooden carrier I built and each section of the house goes up and down that. I'll have to go back and look but I think I paid around 70.00 this year at the scrap yard.
2020 (HOSP Count 2)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

flyin-lowe
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Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Re: Pole for T-14

Postby flyin-lowe » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:28 pm

This link has some answers about T14 pole and some pictures of my original set up. It shows how I recessed the pulley, the wooden carrier, and how I have my winch mounted. The one I build this year is basically the same.

https://www.purplemartin.org/forum/view ... =2&t=35126
2020 (HOSP Count 2)
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

sugarcreek
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Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:43 am
Location: Sugarcreek, Ohio
Martin Colony History: 2016 First Yr.

Re: Pole for T-14

Postby sugarcreek » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:09 am

I have 6 - T14 Houses and have all treated 18' x 4" x 6" which i let dry for 2 weeks in my garage and then paint them white. Have worked well for me for all my houses
2016 - 1st Yr. 14 Compartments 4 Active Nests 9 fledged, 2.25 Fledged per Active Nest
2017 - 2nd Yr. 36 Compartments 18 Active Nests 65 Fledged, 3.61 Fledged per Active Nest
2018 - 3rd Yr. 54 Compartments 43 Active Nests 169 Fledged, 3.93 Fledged per Active Nest
2019 - 4th Yr. 108 Compartments 67 Active Nests 209 Fledged, 3.12 Fledged per Active Nest
2020 - 5th Yr. 108 Compartments ?


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