New landlord

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Steve joubert
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Location: Opelousas Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Start date 6-15/19 starting out

New landlord

Postby Steve joubert » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:36 am

I put up purple Martin house with 24 total compartments for martins. Was put up early June and playing morning martin chat. Looking for advice if any on how to attract?

Brad Biddle
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Location: Marshall County AL

Re: New landlord

Postby Brad Biddle » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:16 am

June in Louisiana is way too late to attract Martins. Try again next year starting in February. Kill all the Hoise Sparrows that you can between now and then. If the hose has 24 6X6 compartments, it would be best to enlarge them. Also, large gourds are more attractive to them than houses. You need your housing in as treeless and area as you have to offer
Martin landlord since 2003. Currently offering 102 plastic gourds with tunnels and all SREH.

Dave Reynolds
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Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2018 Success at Satilite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2019 Success at my home Site

Re: New landlord

Postby Dave Reynolds » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:33 pm

... First of all Welcome Steve.. To the forum... Great to have you here with us... 24 rooms in one house sound kind of large, but as long as the rooms are bigger then the standard 6X6 inch rooms, it will be fine.. There are a lot of Martins Landlords here, from your area, so hopefully some of them will chime in to give you some more advice..

Dave
Home Site
2019 — First pair, 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 fledged :wink:
2010 / 2018 -- Lots of Visitors

Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”
2019 -- 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 99 Hatched and 97 Fledged :wink:
2018 — 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 38 Hatched and 36 Fledged :wink:

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flyin-lowe
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Re: New landlord

Postby flyin-lowe » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:16 pm

If you don't mind post some pictures of you housing as well as you property to give some ideas as to how close you are to trees, buildings, etc. There are many intelligent people on here who will give you good advice.
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Steve joubert
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:44 pm
Location: Opelousas Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Start date 6-15/19 starting out

Re: New landlord

Postby Steve joubert » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:47 pm

... First of all Welcome Steve.. To the forum... Great to have you here with us... 24 rooms in one house sound kind of large, but as long as the rooms are bigger then the standard 6X6 inch rooms, it will be fine.. There are a lot of Martins Landlords here, from your area, so hopefully some of them will chime in to give you some more advice..

Dave
Thanks for advice and it’s two houses with twelve 7x7 unites . I will try and post houses , but still learning.

Steve joubert
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Location: Opelousas Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Start date 6-15/19 starting out

Re: New landlord

Postby Steve joubert » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:54 pm

If you don't mind post some pictures of you housing as well as you property to give some ideas as to how close you are to trees, buildings, etc. There are many intelligent people on here who will give you good advice.
Thanks for advice and will try to post when I learn how to. I have a fence line bout hundred ft with tall trees and flowering trees in yard.

Steve joubert
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Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:44 pm
Location: Opelousas Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Start date 6-15/19 starting out

Re: New landlord

Postby Steve joubert » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:20 pm

Is it necessary to have perches on Martin houses? Or can put some near by? Not sure if this would be a problem, however I live in country area and night time lots of night noise such as crickets, other insects and bullfrogs from nearby pound in backyard. Really loud and believe it or not people pay for night noise like that. Birds want get any rest :grin:

flyin-lowe
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Re: New landlord

Postby flyin-lowe » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:54 pm

They like perches but usually will adapt to whatever is around. As for the night noise they will be fine, my yard is loud at night too.
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Steve joubert
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Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:44 pm
Location: Opelousas Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Start date 6-15/19 starting out

Re: New landlord

Postby Steve joubert » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:29 am

Ok, thanks for information and looking forward to next year.

Steve joubert
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Re: New landlord

Postby Steve joubert » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:22 pm

New landlord and finally learned how to post. Hoping I can get advice if I have enough flying room. Pond near by in back yard. If I need to trim trees and get ready for next year . Any advice?







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C.C.Martins
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Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged.
2018-18 pair. 85 fledged.
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
Home colony: 12 natural gourds, one modified house. 18 cavities in total.
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Re: New landlord

Postby C.C.Martins » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:54 pm

Just my two cents. And ill echo the others, welcome to the martin world wish you success! First the house, if at all possible can you enlarge the compartments? Instead of 24 go with 12. Can u raise it up some and beef up the predator guard? Martins are large birds and their broods need space. Perhaps block a cavity in the rear and enlarge it? Second, Any plans for the bed just behind the house? Id refrain from trees or a tall shrub. Finally the picture is a good one but it looks like the trees encircle the yard, perhaps consider trimming what you can.
Martins in the south are more tree forgiving than northern areas.
Good projects for the off season.
Tom

2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 Fledged
2018-18 pairs. 85 Fledged.
2019-17 pair. 81 fledged.
Offering: 12 natural gourds, w/crescents and WDC openings. 6 modified compartment house, crescents with tunnels.

flyin-lowe
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Re: New landlord

Postby flyin-lowe » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:28 pm

It's hard to tell from a picture exactly how big the trees are and how far away they are. Trees can be an issue but I have a seen colonies near by me that have trees closer then that. I have seen one colony near my old office that had tree branches touching the housing. They are not always a deal breaker but if there are better options near by that might set you back. Are there other areas of the yard that are more open?
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Steve joubert
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:44 pm
Location: Opelousas Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Start date 6-15/19 starting out

Re:new landlord looking for couple of gourds

Postby Steve joubert » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:23 pm

Can anyone tell me where to get couple of gourds, easy to hang on existing houses.

C.C.Martins
Posts: 680
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged.
2018-18 pair. 85 fledged.
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
Home colony: 12 natural gourds, one modified house. 18 cavities in total.
PMCA member

Re: New landlord

Postby C.C.Martins » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:43 pm

Try right here on the site, go to Shop; excluder gourds are fantastic, Super gourds, troyer very good. Can order one, or more as you wish.
Tom

2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 Fledged
2018-18 pairs. 85 Fledged.
2019-17 pair. 81 fledged.
Offering: 12 natural gourds, w/crescents and WDC openings. 6 modified compartment house, crescents with tunnels.

Steve joubert
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:44 pm
Location: Opelousas Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Start date 6-15/19 starting out

Re: New landlord

Postby Steve joubert » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:46 pm

Oh wow!! Great and thanks so much!!!

Steve joubert
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Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:44 pm
Location: Opelousas Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Start date 6-15/19 starting out

Re: New landlord

Postby Steve joubert » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:23 pm

Just purchased gourds and wondering if hang up and see if any visitors stop on there way back to South America for resting a night or so. And if so, do I have to add nesting material? First year and don't know much about anything when it comes to migration habits. Any information would be great,

handyman315
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Location: SW Ohio
Martin Colony History: Colony established May 20, 2017 after three unsuccessful years. Persistent and aggressive Tree Swallows plagued the site, but beyond learning - and practicing - to control them, was the return in 2017 of a 2016-SY-M previously unable to find a mate. As a handsome ASY-M, he brought along two females and a swagger that soon put the Tree Swallow issue to rest. As the anchor pair, he and his mate hatched all six of their eggs into fat and healthy babies into what settled in to be a three-pair, flourishing new colony with up to 11 birds total, including 3 SY-M trouble makers.

Re: New landlord

Postby handyman315 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:00 am

Welcome. We love new landlords!

Although Martins can be very forgiving, your housing looks a tad low, especially when you hang the gourds you just bought, which is a very good move IMO.

No, you don't need nesting material for visitors as this season ends, but early next spring (winter in LA?), pine needles in each compartment always seem welcomed by PMs, even if they drag some out and replace them with wet, muddy, wheat stubble! :shock:

Early next year, as a LL trying to start a new colony, a little mud smeared on the outside of the housing might work wonders; it pushed me from the wanna be category to LL! :grin: "Pristine" might look great to humans, but "used" looks welcoming to PMs; remember they live in colonies, not alone.

Most of all, GOOD LUCK! Lotsa experienced LLs on here, so just ask.
2019- 19 Nesting Pair Fledged 84 babies. The Pattern is Full.
2018-ASY-M Arrived April 6, Despite Snow & Cold, Joined Soon by Mate & Two Adult Pairs, Season of 11 Nests W/48 Babies
2017-FIRST-YEAR LANDLORD! :grin: Resident SY-M from 2016 Returned (as ASY-M) on May 20. At Least 11 Resident PMs, with 13 Fledged from Three Nests and Operated a Daily Flying Circus :grin:
2016-Late-Arriving SYs, Resident Lone SY-M, Unable to Find Mate
2015 & 2014-Many Visits

Steve joubert
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Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:44 pm
Location: Opelousas Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Start date 6-15/19 starting out

Re: New landlord

Postby Steve joubert » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:28 am

Thanks for reply, gourds that I hanged is about 8’ pic looks shorter that really is. I have to get on 8’ ladder to check compartments. And have colony less than half mile from me. He have bunch of starling and sparrows. I will make sure they stay there 😁

Steve joubert
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:44 pm
Location: Opelousas Louisiana
Martin Colony History: Start date 6-15/19 starting out

Re: New landlord how to know if you have by passerby

Postby Steve joubert » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:35 am

Just a question, if having Purple Martin stoping to stay overnight, how can you tell if they come in at night and leave in early morning? Is there any way of telling? I’m a little slow about situation. Any way of telling?

~Ray~Gingerich
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Re: New landlord

Postby ~Ray~Gingerich » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:50 am

Steve, welcome to the forum
It's good that you are hanging some gourds. You mentioned that there are a lot starlings and sparrows which I think will be your #1 problem to attracting martins, trap shoot and kill year around and you should see a reduction. Removing habitat such as shrubs and hedges the sparrows love to hang out in helps and starling resistant entrance holes will for the most part keep starlings out of the nests. If you can open up an area that would allow martins to see a distant horizon and morning sun. Some trees are okay but I prefer a 100 ft distance.
Ray Gingerich , Dover De
~Ray~ Gingerich
1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair


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