Can't believe it, but I have one hanging around

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Brad Biddle
Posts: 523
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:22 pm
Location: Marshall County AL

Mark I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a female get a green leaf.
Martin landlord since 2003. Currently offering 132 plastic gourds with tunnels and all SREH.
deancamp
Posts: 412
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Raymore, MO

Ryan, I'm pulling for you. I hope he makes it back in full purple color and gets your colony up and running with a mate.
4th Gen Martin Fan
Posts: 1483
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:19 pm
Location: TN/Collierville
Martin Colony History: I have been exposed to purple martin sounds in utero when my mother went out to get my father away from his martin colony.
I played around the martin colony every summer and watched as my father maintained his colony. In the late 50's until the 70's he did not notice European Starlings in south Texas.
When old enough, I helped maintain his colony. My primary task was eliminating English House Sparrows with a 1956 Benjamin 317 .177 air rifle.
When I settled into my own home, I started my first colony with an original Trio Castle and Trio Grandpa. When I moved again, I did not put up any martin houses. Frustration with European Starlings in the Southeast US was overwhelming.
Found PMCA Forum and learned about modern enlarged compartments and SREHs.
Inherited my father's last martin house, a Trio Grandma, modified it to modern specifications and have had good results since then.

Brad,
I have never paid attention to who pulls the green leaves from the top of trees. I assumed wrong because you have seen that it is only the males who pull green leaves.
Mark.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
Matt F.
Posts: 3895
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:48 am
Location: Houston, TX

Hi Mark,
You didn't assume wrong.
See this article from Kathy Freeze - which includes a photo of an ASY female gathering green leaves, and mentions both males and females performing this in her writeup.
This is another example of Martin behavior at one colony, not being the same as their behavior at another colony.
https://www.purplemartin.org/blog/2017/ ... ek-inside/
Andrew Smith
Posts: 28
Joined: Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:11 am
Location: Burford, Ontario, Canada
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Hundreds of fly-bys August and September
2020- Visitors in April and June

Good morning. Before I ask for some advice I just wanted to let Ryan know I've got my fingers crossed for the safe arrival of your ASY male. Hopefully he shows up soon with a female companion. My situation so far this year... I have been playing the dawn song since early April. I did get a ASY male visit once randomly on April 19th. Then yesterday another visit, not sure if it was a SY male or female. Both birds made short appearances and I have not seen them again. First question is about the volume of playing the dawn song. I play my power horn very loud and point it east, it's loud enough to nearly deafened me if I get too close. Is this too loud? Yesterday the martin that stopped nearly landed on the speaker, but then took off making a serious racket of vocals. This was around 6:30pm and like I said flew around one more time and took off without returning. Second question is having a bird feeder near a martin pole okay. It's pretty busy with all types of birds, I am wondering if this may be keeping any potential residents away? Thanks.
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2019 - Set up T14 Multiple flyovers during migration in August
2020 - ASY male visit in April , SY male visits in June
Andrew Smith
Posts: 28
Joined: Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:11 am
Location: Burford, Ontario, Canada
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Hundreds of fly-bys August and September
2020- Visitors in April and June

Here are few pictures to help. First one is of the ASY male from April. The second one shows my new location of the T14 and bird feeder. The distance between the two is about 55 feet.
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2019 - Set up T14 Multiple flyovers during migration in August
2020 - ASY male visit in April , SY male visits in June
Ryan
Posts: 281
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:19 pm
Location: Eganville, Ontario
Martin Colony History: Visitors are rare. Three SY males seen in 10 years.

Uh, still waiting here. It's painful, I will say. I'm starting to not like my odds as the SY showed up here June 7th last year. I really thought he would be back by now if he survived the season.

There's some hope reading a couple threads lately about how late migration is and egg laying and all things this year seems late, so hoping that's the case....but I must say the days start ticking away and so do my chances.

This is one tough hobby.


Andrew Smith wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 9:04 am
Good morning. Before I ask for some advice I just wanted to let Ryan know I've got my fingers crossed for the safe arrival of your ASY male. Hopefully he shows up soon with a female companion. My situation so far this year... I have been playing the dawn song since early April. I did get a ASY male visit once randomly on April 19th. Then yesterday another visit, not sure if it was a SY male or female. Both birds made short appearances and I have not seen them again. First question is about the volume of playing the dawn song. I play my power horn very loud and point it east, it's loud enough to nearly deafened me if I get too close. Is this too loud? Yesterday the martin that stopped nearly landed on the speaker, but then took off making a serious racket of vocals. This was around 6:30pm and like I said flew around one more time and took off without returning. Second question is having a bird feeder near a martin pole okay. It's pretty busy with all types of birds, I am wondering if this may be keeping any potential residents away? Thanks.
Hey congrats on the two visits. One year I played the dawn sing really loud here. I never saw a martin. I play it much lower now. Still loud as I need to travel lots of miles, but not that much louder than an actual bird. I certainly do believe too loud of a dawnsong audio clip will spook them. Learned that the hard way. Good luck, hope you see a few more.
Home site: 12 cedar chalets - Plus two satellite sites which are also empty.
2010- 1 SY male on and off for a couple weeks
2011- 0 visits
2012- 0 visits
2013- 0 visits
2014- 1 SY male stopped in here and there for two weeks.
2015- 0 visits
2016- 0 visits
2017- 0 visits
2018- 0 visits
2019- Break-through year. Had a SY Male stop in on June 7th and stay all day, every day until end of June and built a nest. Hoping he returns in 2020 because I'm getting tired of updating this list.
white-out
Posts: 73
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:21 am
Location: ohio

Well Ryan, I've been thinking of you and hope they show up........If they do, I bet your feet won't touch the ground for weeks! Good luck!
QamarCowger
Posts: 1
Joined: Fri May 22, 2020 8:08 pm
Location: Hallowell, Maine

Hi Ryan. Hats off to your patience man. I loved reading all your post it's quite a story. I am a newbie, started this May I also play dawn song but no visitors yet 🙁. I have nice open big wide field 1 mile from a small pond I hope this won't be any problem?

I am from Hallowell, Maine. I think we both are on the same page cause I am also up north and only a few colonies here in Maine. Three colonies up north from me, The closest colony is 12 miles away and the two others are 34 miles and 53 miles straight. I have heard there is another colony down south in Keñnebunk, Maine but I am not sure about it.

I hope the wait won't take too long !
Andrew Smith
Posts: 28
Joined: Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:11 am
Location: Burford, Ontario, Canada
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Hundreds of fly-bys August and September
2020- Visitors in April and June

Any action at your site this year Ryan? Also any idea what the numbers are like for the older fellow with the active colony closest to you?
2019 - Set up T14 Multiple flyovers during migration in August
2020 - ASY male visit in April , SY male visits in June
Ryan
Posts: 281
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:19 pm
Location: Eganville, Ontario
Martin Colony History: Visitors are rare. Three SY males seen in 10 years.

So the SY from last year isn't back. That one hurt for sure but I guess I'm back to square one. I was so looking forward to seeing an ASY bird, something that I've never seen before at my site, but it's too late in the year and there's no chance of that happening now.

Back looking for SY's to be drawn in, which is exactly what happened June 9th. It was kind of weird, I didn't see the SY male at the housing, but it landed in a dead tree 30 yards from me and starting singing. I was 200 yards from the housing. It flew around a bit but never did see it at housing. I'm not around much so I can't confirm that it didn't check out housing (I'm sure it circled it since the dawnsong is close to it). I did hear it flying overhead later in the day so it stick around for a few hours but haven't seen it since.

I guess a positive is that I did see martins in back to back years for the first time ever, but the sting of not having the adult male return does hurt.
Home site: 12 cedar chalets - Plus two satellite sites which are also empty.
2010- 1 SY male on and off for a couple weeks
2011- 0 visits
2012- 0 visits
2013- 0 visits
2014- 1 SY male stopped in here and there for two weeks.
2015- 0 visits
2016- 0 visits
2017- 0 visits
2018- 0 visits
2019- Break-through year. Had a SY Male stop in on June 7th and stay all day, every day until end of June and built a nest. Hoping he returns in 2020 because I'm getting tired of updating this list.
Ryan
Posts: 281
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:19 pm
Location: Eganville, Ontario
Martin Colony History: Visitors are rare. Three SY males seen in 10 years.

Andrew Smith wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:34 am
Any action at your site this year Ryan? Also any idea what the numbers are like for the older fellow with the active colony closest to you?
The older guy has about 12 martins back he says. Same as last year. They're in a large house with round holes and small 6x6 compartments and nesting with starlings so there is little hope of growing it. The housing set-up that I built him a couple years ago has had tree swallows in it for two years and no martins. I'm going to talk him into putting my house up very late next year to hopefully get rid of the tree swallows. He's also talking about putting a few SREH plates on his large house, as he knows the damage the starlings can do, but he needs to enlarge rooms and it's a nearly impossible job on a house that doesn't drop and doesn't have doors that open.

It's frustrating to watch, but at least he still has them. Not a lot I can really do. He's skeptical that martins can even fit in the SREH but I've assured him they can. We'll see. He's quite old and no internet so I can only do so much.
Home site: 12 cedar chalets - Plus two satellite sites which are also empty.
2010- 1 SY male on and off for a couple weeks
2011- 0 visits
2012- 0 visits
2013- 0 visits
2014- 1 SY male stopped in here and there for two weeks.
2015- 0 visits
2016- 0 visits
2017- 0 visits
2018- 0 visits
2019- Break-through year. Had a SY Male stop in on June 7th and stay all day, every day until end of June and built a nest. Hoping he returns in 2020 because I'm getting tired of updating this list.
Andrew Smith
Posts: 28
Joined: Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:11 am
Location: Burford, Ontario, Canada
Martin Colony History: 2019 - Hundreds of fly-bys August and September
2020- Visitors in April and June

Glad to hear you have seen another martin this year. Keep hope, you still have a few weeks. I have had some birds here every day since June 8th. I think it may be the same SY male each time. Shows up every day. Sometime between 7am to 10am. Files around a bit, looks in a few holes in the T14 and repeat. Usually sticks around for 20-30 minutes. Is this a good sign or just random visits? Any thoughts?
2019 - Set up T14 Multiple flyovers during migration in August
2020 - ASY male visit in April , SY male visits in June
gotham
Posts: 67
Joined: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:36 am
Location: Wellington, On, Canada (our summer place)
Martin Colony History: -Wife's family martin house shore Lake Ontario since 1967.
-2017 martin house taken over by starlings.
-2018 did research and purchased new martin house -Lonestar Alamo aluminum 14 compartment with perching rods and nest trays.
-2019 opened new martin house but frustrating season long battle with wily HOSPs (see posts) and martin visitors but no settlers.
-2020 Covid-19-honored request of locals that seasonal home owners stay away and only reached summer home too late to attempt to start colony. Aiming with determination and hope for next year.

Hi Ryan,

Read your posts last year and was really rooting for your guy to return as an ASY.

Have been away from the forum for awhile but returned recently and sought out your entries for this year. Very sorry your fellow didn't make it back.

Glad you are going to keep at it and will be following your posts again next year and hoping along with you.

Gotham
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