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sgt1577
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New to this!

Postby sgt1577 » Sat May 18, 2019 7:54 am

Put up a PM house at the end of my boat dock. Attracted some birds but don’t think they are Purple Martins? Here’s a picture of what’s going on. Any help for a newbie would be appreciated! Thanks!

Archer
Posts: 704
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:09 pm
Location: Manitoba/Altona
Martin Colony History: six pair in 2014, have grown to 52 pairs in 2017.

Re: New to this!

Postby Archer » Sat May 18, 2019 8:07 am

Since you picture did not show up, could you describe your birds? Possibilities include House Sparrow, Starling, Tree swallow, Bluebird.
2011- first year trying, a few visitors.
2012-One ASY pair, raised two young, lots of subby visitors. So thankfull.
2013-daily subby visits.
2014-Six SY pairs
2015-18 pair, 83 fledglings
2016-36 pair, 147 fledglings
2017-52 pairs, 192 fledglings.
2018-60 pair, 246 fledglings.

deancamp
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: MO

Re: New to this!

Postby deancamp » Sat May 18, 2019 8:29 am

Adding a picture can be difficult. It has to be greatly downsized. Really haven't figured it all out yet myself.

rrmartins
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:04 am
Location: Round Rock, TX

Re: New to this!

Postby rrmartins » Sat May 18, 2019 10:39 am

Long legs with orange beak=Starling.
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

sgt1577
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Location: New York

Re: New to this!

Postby sgt1577 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:40 am

Thanks! Let me try the pics again
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rrmartins
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Location: Round Rock, TX

Re: New to this!

Postby rrmartins » Sun May 19, 2019 7:01 am

Starlings, need to get rid of them.
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

Dave Reynolds
Posts: 1756
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2018 Success at Satilite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2019 Success at my home Site

Re: New to this!

Postby Dave Reynolds » Sun May 19, 2019 7:19 am

... Starling --- Nasty Bird,, Get rid of them..

Dave
Home Site
2019 — First pair, 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 fledged :wink:
2010 / 2018 -- Lots of Visitors

Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”
2019 -- 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 99 Hatched and 97 Fledged :wink:
2018 — 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 38 Hatched and 36 Fledged :wink:

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Archer
Posts: 704
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:09 pm
Location: Manitoba/Altona
Martin Colony History: six pair in 2014, have grown to 52 pairs in 2017.

Re: New to this!

Postby Archer » Sun May 19, 2019 8:48 am

Let me help you get rid of them. Starling resistant entrances are available at the shop on this website. https://www.purplemartin.org/shop/63/re ... nt-plates/
2011- first year trying, a few visitors.
2012-One ASY pair, raised two young, lots of subby visitors. So thankfull.
2013-daily subby visits.
2014-Six SY pairs
2015-18 pair, 83 fledglings
2016-36 pair, 147 fledglings
2017-52 pairs, 192 fledglings.
2018-60 pair, 246 fledglings.

-=DKC=-
Posts: 359
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:26 pm
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Martin Colony History: ................
2019: 11 pairs
2018: 11 pairs - 43 fledged
2017: 4 pairs - 17 fledged

Re: New to this!

Postby -=DKC=- » Sun May 19, 2019 10:25 am

As Archer suggested, Starling Resistant Entrance Holes will make your life a lot easier.

Edited to add:

Before trying to control Starlings or House Sparrows, be absolutely certain that you can identify them and tell them apart from other native birds.

Purple Martin identification:
https://www.purplemartin.org/purple-mar ... ification/

Birds similar to Purple Martins:
https://www.purplemartin.org/purple-mar ... imposters/

ID by nests & eggs:
https://www.purplemartin.org/purple-mar ... 5/nest-id/

European Starling Identification:
https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Eur ... tarling/id

This is a good informational booklet about being a Purple Martin landlord:
https://www.purplemartin.org/uploads/me ... 15-402.pdf
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on suckin' till you do succeed." - Curly Howard

flyin-lowe
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Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Re: New to this!

Postby flyin-lowe » Sun May 19, 2019 2:56 pm

Without the SREH mentioned above you will be fighting a losing battle with starlings. For every one that you shoot two more will eventually show up. I can battle the sparrows and keep ahead but there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of starlings in my area. SREH is the only way to go. They are not always 100% effective but I put my first martin house up close to 15 years ago and have only had one breech that I know of and that was last year.
2019- Currently 31 complete nests (27 with eggs or babies) 94 babies hatched and 19 eggs still to hatch) 6-22-19
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.

Dave Duit
Posts: 1488
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:02 pm
Location: state:Iowa / town:Nevada
Martin Colony History: In 2018, 54 pair with 202 fledged youngsters. 73 total compartments available, 48 Troyer Horizontal gourds and 4 modified trio metal house units, owl cages around all units. Martin educator and speaker. President of the Iowa Purple Martin Organization. Please visit www.iamartin.org and join.

Re: New to this!

Postby Dave Duit » Sun May 19, 2019 6:00 pm

Starling on the left, but unsure of the bird on the right. Starlings have long pointy beaks. Martins have short black beaks.
Mite control, heat venting, predator protection and additional feeding during bad weather add up to success.

sgt1577
Posts: 3
Joined: Sat May 11, 2019 8:15 am
Location: New York

Re: New to this!

Postby sgt1577 » Tue May 21, 2019 4:40 am

Thanks for all the replies! Guess I’ll take it down and clean them ou

Dave Duit
Posts: 1488
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:02 pm
Location: state:Iowa / town:Nevada
Martin Colony History: In 2018, 54 pair with 202 fledged youngsters. 73 total compartments available, 48 Troyer Horizontal gourds and 4 modified trio metal house units, owl cages around all units. Martin educator and speaker. President of the Iowa Purple Martin Organization. Please visit www.iamartin.org and join.

Re: New to this!

Postby Dave Duit » Tue May 21, 2019 8:07 am

Go ahead and shoot the starling and keep your martin housing up.
Mite control, heat venting, predator protection and additional feeding during bad weather add up to success.


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