Colony Being Destroyed

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rrmartins
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Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby rrmartins » Mon May 06, 2019 7:09 pm

I just spread cayenne pepper all around bottom of pole and mixed cayenne and Vaseline and put on pole and cable above and bellow guard. Try anything at this point.
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

GFB
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Joined: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:05 pm
Location: Ontario NY
Martin Colony History: I Started my first colony with my father in the late 1960's. Started building custom vinyl Martin houses last year 2018 and was successful with 10 birds fledged and it looks like several dozen birds are hanging around. Time to expand.
2018: 1 T-14 and 6 gourds. Fledged 10
2019: 2 T-14's and 6 gourds. Fledged 70

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby GFB » Mon May 06, 2019 7:22 pm

They are smart and agile with long skinny bodies, I was thinking the netting might not be such a good idea, they can use it for footing and if the bucket is split and has a seem they might get past it.

rrmartins
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Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby rrmartins » Mon May 06, 2019 7:26 pm

I have to try this tonight, tomorrow I’ll get 6ft stove pipe from box store.
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

rrmartins
Posts: 1364
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:04 am
Location: Round Rock, TX

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby rrmartins » Mon May 06, 2019 7:27 pm

I have to try this tonight, tomorrow I’ll get 6ft stove pipe from box store.
I taped the seam up. You don’t think the Vaseline and cayenne pepper will help deter whatever it is?
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

GFB
Posts: 53
Joined: Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:05 pm
Location: Ontario NY
Martin Colony History: I Started my first colony with my father in the late 1960's. Started building custom vinyl Martin houses last year 2018 and was successful with 10 birds fledged and it looks like several dozen birds are hanging around. Time to expand.
2018: 1 T-14 and 6 gourds. Fledged 10
2019: 2 T-14's and 6 gourds. Fledged 70

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby GFB » Mon May 06, 2019 8:08 pm

That I'm not sure of but it will most likely keep coming back. If it were me I would raise your winch a few feet and find some stainless stove pipe. and they are so smart you probably won't even be ale to catch it in a have a heart trap. A small muskrat trap covered with crinkled wax paper to cover up the scent and covered with grass with a bird on top. But I have to say Don't do it where you live because of cats or someones pet could get in it. I also don't know what the trapping laws are in your state.

Fireflyfisherman
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Location: TX/Mckinney
Martin Colony History: 2016 - 1 Pair (5 Fledged)
2015 - 1 Pair (3 Fledged)

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby Fireflyfisherman » Mon May 06, 2019 10:52 pm

I had a similar incident with some bluebird babies. I ended up losing them all before I could put a stop to it. Mine turned out to be a rat and it would eat the birds each night and leave a similar carcass. Rats are very cunning. When I had my incident other suggested squirrels but I found my critter coming back each night. I use the stovepipe baffle for all my gourd racks and bird houses. It works well. Good luck. Also, be glad you found the problem before it wiped out your colony. This landlording stuff can be trying at times. We do the best we can.

Spiderman
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Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby Spiderman » Mon May 06, 2019 11:13 pm

It's not a raccoon, I've dealt with them. They eat head & body, leave the wings on the ground behind.

Raccoon with eat at least 6 Martins in one night, then not return for 3 or 4 days.

Then will do it again until captured.
2008 - 33 PAIR - FLEDGED 96 YOUNG
2009 - 51 PAIR - FLEDGED 166 YOUNG
2010 - 45 PAIR - FLEDGED 146 YOUNG
2011 - 33 PAIR - 128 HATCHED, 97 FLEDGED
2012 - 37 PAIR - 119 HATCHED, 101 FLEDGED

rrmartins
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Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby rrmartins » Tue May 07, 2019 6:02 am

Nothing dead on the ground this morning, it’s too early to lower the house, still dark out.
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

rrmartins
Posts: 1364
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:04 am
Location: Round Rock, TX

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby rrmartins » Tue May 07, 2019 6:49 am

Is a 6”x 5ft stove pipe big enough?
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

rrmartins
Posts: 1364
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:04 am
Location: Round Rock, TX

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby rrmartins » Tue May 07, 2019 7:40 am

No dead birds inside house either.
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

MNguy
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Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:58 pm
Location: Dakota Cty, MN
Martin Colony History: 2014 - first year, zero activity
2015 - Nothing
2016 - SY male visited and stayed a few weeks, unable to attract a mate
2017 - SY pair arrived June 6 - 3 eggs laid, 2 hatched, 1 fledged.
2018 - ASY male, SY female - 5 eggs, 5 hatched, lost all 5 prematurely
2019 - ???

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby MNguy » Tue May 07, 2019 8:49 am

RR - never received a PM. You can e-mail me @ jake@northlandkb.com if you would like.

KathyF
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Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
As of 2018 - 84 cavities offered, max # of pairs hosted - 82.

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby KathyF » Tue May 07, 2019 8:55 am

I agree with Courtney, you need a cylinder guard on your pole - it needs to be 2' long and put it below the netting. A climbing weasel / predator can use the netting to 'boost' themselves over your guard.

My neighbor had a weasel kill 32 of his chickens - they are relentless.
"Sometimes", said Pooh, "the smallest things take up the most room in your heart."
2016 - 82 pair
2015 - 76 pair
2014 - 75 pair
2013 - 75 pair
2012-72 pair
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rrmartins
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Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby rrmartins » Tue May 07, 2019 9:04 am

Buying one today.
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

KathyF
Posts: 3499
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 1:57 pm
Location: Missouri/Licking
Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
As of 2018 - 84 cavities offered, max # of pairs hosted - 82.

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby KathyF » Tue May 07, 2019 9:16 am

Is a 6”x 5ft stove pipe big enough?
Yes, but put your netting above it.
"Sometimes", said Pooh, "the smallest things take up the most room in your heart."
2016 - 82 pair
2015 - 76 pair
2014 - 75 pair
2013 - 75 pair
2012-72 pair
http://kathyfreeze.blogspot.com

KathyF
Posts: 3499
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 1:57 pm
Location: Missouri/Licking
Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
As of 2018 - 84 cavities offered, max # of pairs hosted - 82.

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby KathyF » Tue May 07, 2019 9:18 am

Good video on the details of putting together stove pipe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaS7r9ZIrU8
"Sometimes", said Pooh, "the smallest things take up the most room in your heart."
2016 - 82 pair
2015 - 76 pair
2014 - 75 pair
2013 - 75 pair
2012-72 pair
http://kathyfreeze.blogspot.com

KathyF
Posts: 3499
Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 1:57 pm
Location: Missouri/Licking
Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
As of 2018 - 84 cavities offered, max # of pairs hosted - 82.

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby KathyF » Tue May 07, 2019 9:20 am

"Sometimes", said Pooh, "the smallest things take up the most room in your heart."
2016 - 82 pair
2015 - 76 pair
2014 - 75 pair
2013 - 75 pair
2012-72 pair
http://kathyfreeze.blogspot.com

deancamp
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Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby deancamp » Tue May 07, 2019 10:30 am

In addition to being 2' long it should be 2' off the ground.

rrmartins
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Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby rrmartins » Tue May 07, 2019 10:49 am

10/4
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

rrmartins
Posts: 1364
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:04 am
Location: Round Rock, TX

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby rrmartins » Tue May 07, 2019 1:16 pm

I was also advised to raise my winch. With the T14 being so tall, it has to come all the way down to do nest checks. I got a 6”x4’ vent pipe I’ll be adding this evening after nest checks.
2019
T14
7 pair
25 fledged
Rat breached bird netting and nearly wiped out entire colony over a four day period. Problem was fixed!!

deancamp
Posts: 106
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: MO

Re: Colony Being Destroyed

Postby deancamp » Tue May 07, 2019 2:02 pm

As much as I would like to know what has been causing the destruction, I hope this solves your problem and it goes away.


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