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kim w.
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What is the advantages between the clinger opening and a crescent opening?
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gussiemike
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Hi, I believe the clinger entrance you asked about refers to an entrance that has a plate attached to it below the entrance opening. The plate is for the martins to use for a tail prop to help them hang onto the opening. It also helps them with balance and to help them propel into the cavity opening. The cresent opening is a design of an opening which is supposed to help keep out sparrows and starlings. Hope this was a help.
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kim w.
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This is what I was referring to
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Kim W.
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kim w. wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:09 pm
This is what I was referring to
I have these clinger entrances on my gourds. I'm not sure of the advantages of clinger vs crescent unless maybe the clinger is supposed to help with wing entrapment issues. I do know that my Martins don't have any problem with them and I've never seen a Starling breach one.

Here's a couple of relevant threads...

Between Cresent/Clinger entrances which is best & why?

Cresent or Clinger
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gussiemike
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where do you get those clinger entrances from? i have never seen them before.
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kim w. wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:09 pm
This is what I was referring to
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Thanks —- Kim for the picture.. It does help a lot of the newcomers see the differences in the Entrances..

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Do all the clinger entrances have round holes ? They do on this site.
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kim w.
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I think it is confusing. Two different things with the same name.
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gussiemike wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:28 pm
where do you get those clinger entrances from? i have never seen them before.
S&K makes them. Not sure if anyone else does.
Bird Brain wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:14 am
Do all the clinger entrances have round holes ? They do on this site.
No. The S&K clinger entrances are a modified crescent as shown in the image above.
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Glynn B - LA
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The clinger entrance is a cresent that the sharp edges have been cutoff/ removed. No wing entrapment advantage at all, just another STARLING RESISTANT ENTRANCE HOLE modification/idea.
Every SREH that is made from “any thin material “ without wing entrapment guards will eventually have a martin wing entrapment. Some entrances can be purchased with the guards already molded in or one will have to be manually install.

Clinger ultimate tunnel has guard

Conley II gourd tunnel has guard

Wing entrapment guards for clinger or cresent entrance can be purchased from this site.



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I think it is confusing. Two different things with the same name.
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Kim W
One is called a Cling plate

One is called a Clinger SREH

I’m not being sarcastic, I’m genuinely trying to help.

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I don’t have the perfect site. One open flyway with trees within 80 ft. I do have a small pond they utilize during the heat of Summer. (2017) HEAVY HAWK PREDATION
kim w.
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Glynn
Thanks. No offense taken
Kim W.
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s&k does have clinger entrances. $1.89ea so i ordered a dozen to try. thanks for the info.
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Keith
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I really like the Clinger, used them several years. Here is my experience. I have never had a Starling enter them but have seen the Starling enter the Cresent . The same experience with wing entrapment. None in the Clinger. My colony of approx.75 pairs the last few years easily use them.
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I use the clinger tunnels. Suggest using a porch or tunnel if you're going to add them.

Mike Scully (I believe) tested all SREH and all were breached by starlings. I've had starlings breach my clingers. Still better than round openings.
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Keith
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Some tunnels made using the Clinger entrance. Pictures hopefully.
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Still trying to put on some pictures of the Clinger entrances we use.
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