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Kellye
Posts: 69
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:21 am
Location: Kansas

Hi all,
Last night we had a snake get in our box and it killed 3 ate 2 we got out there before it could eat the last one. Thankfully the other three must have already fledged.

I have Predator guards but they aren’t working for the giant black snakes that are longer than the guard.

I’m now looking into other guards and repellents. How does the netting guard do? And is there a special way to put the netting on the pole? Does it need to be a certain size of netting? When looking through photos it seemed to work well.. And have any of you used snake repellents?
Thank you!
Kelly
2015- 4 fledged
2016- 15 fledged
2017- 50 fledged
2018- 82 fledged
2019- 116 fledged
1 12 room Trendsetter, 1 18 gourd rack, 1 28 room Trendsetter house.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 2936
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

A combination of 1/2 and 3/4 inch netting will usually get smaller and larger snakes. Some people use some stiff wire to almost make an umbrella shape above the other predator guard you have.

Also if you can post a picture of your current guard someone might be able to help with adjustments to make it more effective.

Here is an older post that shows a snake in some netting.


https://www.purplemartin.org/forum/view ... ng#p275887
2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
BillieJR
Posts: 677
Joined: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:39 am
Location: Monroe, WI

I am so sorry, Kellye. I would crap if I came across a snake in or on my pole or houses/gourds. I shutter just to picture it in my mind. It's too bad about your babies. :(
Billie from south central Wisconsin
Kellye
Posts: 69
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:21 am
Location: Kansas

flyin-lowe wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:31 am
A combination of 1/2 and 3/4 inch netting will usually get smaller and larger snakes. Some people use some stiff wire to almost make an umbrella shape above the other predator guard you have.

Also if you can post a picture of your current guard someone might be able to help with adjustments to make it more effective.

Here is an older post that shows a snake in some netting.


https://www.purplemartin.org/forum/view ... ng#p275887
Thank you! This is very helpful! How do I attach the netting to the pole?
Thanks!
Kelly
2015- 4 fledged
2016- 15 fledged
2017- 50 fledged
2018- 82 fledged
2019- 116 fledged
1 12 room Trendsetter, 1 18 gourd rack, 1 28 room Trendsetter house.
Kellye
Posts: 69
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:21 am
Location: Kansas

BillieJR wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:58 am
I am so sorry, Kellye. I would crap if I came across a snake in or on my pole or houses/gourds. I shutter just to picture it in my mind. It's too bad about your babies. :(
Thank you. It is sad. At lest the other three were able to get away, or had already fledged.
Thank you again!
Kelly
2015- 4 fledged
2016- 15 fledged
2017- 50 fledged
2018- 82 fledged
2019- 116 fledged
1 12 room Trendsetter, 1 18 gourd rack, 1 28 room Trendsetter house.
jpp77
Posts: 175
Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:21 pm
Location: Lawrence, KS area
Martin Colony History: 2015 - 1 pair, not successful (Sparrows)
2016 - 1 pair, 4 young
2017 - 5 pair, 23 young
2018 - 8 pair, 40 young, two deaths most likely due to heat.
2019 - 18 pair, 74 eggs, 1 nest abandoned, all the rest successful.
2020 - 32 nests, unknown exact egg numbers, 1 death.

That sucks! I'm fairly lucky because my rack is in a fenced in back yard and we have dogs. The Martins don't mind the dogs and we don't usually have an issue with snakes because of it. I just have to check for jumpers before letting dogs out.
ron20m
Posts: 446
Joined: Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:01 pm
Location: Oklahoma/Norman

Me too!!!! For first time in 23 years I had a big rat snake in a Bo 11 gourd and 5 20 day old babies were gone.
I've tried netting in past, but I struggled with keeping it from getting in the way of raising gourds up and down.
I've done it off and on several years but never caught a snake in one and hadn't had troubles before or after with suddenly missing babies.
Now I will be forced to keep netting up.
ron20m
Posts: 446
Joined: Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:01 pm
Location: Oklahoma/Norman

In past I've tried using a silicon spray to make the metal pole guard slick and placed some granules of "snake away" around the base. we had had a bunch of rain when my snake was caught so not sure if those would have been much good.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 2936
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Kellye wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:12 am
flyin-lowe wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:31 am
A combination of 1/2 and 3/4 inch netting will usually get smaller and larger snakes. Some people use some stiff wire to almost make an umbrella shape above the other predator guard you have.

Also if you can post a picture of your current guard someone might be able to help with adjustments to make it more effective.

Here is an older post that shows a snake in some netting.


https://www.purplemartin.org/forum/view ... ng#p275887
Thank you! This is very helpful! How do I attach the netting to the pole?
Thanks!
Kelly
The only one I ever made I used stiff wire and wrapped the wire around the pole and then had it arched out and down. I did several pieces this way. Picture an umbrella without the fabric. Then I draped the netting over the wires and used zip ties to help hold it in place. I pretty much held itself though once I started layering it on.
2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
Kellye
Posts: 69
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:21 am
Location: Kansas

Thank you all!! I’ll be getting all these things soon!
Thank you all again,
Kelly
2015- 4 fledged
2016- 15 fledged
2017- 50 fledged
2018- 82 fledged
2019- 116 fledged
1 12 room Trendsetter, 1 18 gourd rack, 1 28 room Trendsetter house.
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