Heath House Modification

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Kyler
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Martin Colony History: PMCA Member - Project MartinWatch - Enlarged Compartments - SREH - S&S Control - Mite Control - Predator Guards - Heat Control ( Vents and Insulation ) - Supplemental Feeding -

Manage 8 Colonies that consist of 250 Cavities in Colby Kansas.

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Alright now I finally have my grandpas house done. I put access ports and enlarged the compartments. I do have the porches in now but this is before. We will see what happens.

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Kyler,
Purple Martin Landlords of Northwest KS
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2013 & 2015 - 0 Pair -
2014 - 1 Pair - 4 Eggs - 3 Hatched - 3 Fledged -
2016 - 5 Pair - 27 Eggs - 24 Hatched - 13 Fledged -
2017 - 18 Pair - 102 Eggs - 78 Hatched - 69 Fledged -
2018 - 22 Pair - 115 Eggs - 92 Hatched - 86 Fledged -
2019 - 28 Pair - 144 Eggs - 131 Hatched - 125 Fledged -
2020 - 40 Pair - 190 Eggs - 133 Hatched - 111 Fledged So Far - (Bad Year! To Many Single SY Males)
C.C.Martins
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Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged.
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged.
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
Home colony: mix natural gourds, house. All SREH.
Satelite colony Oso bay preserve: 12 gourds: PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
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Kyler, I like the large caps, great access idea. I recently modified one for a friend, because of the heat here I insulated the underside of the roof, drilled holes in 4 roof panels and inserted .5 inch elbow vents; same vents are on the interior to vent the nest compartment. I used the same insulation on the inner walls. Made it so that the roof comes off in one piece (stole the idea from the Trip castle set up) all secured with threaded rods...very little extra weight.

I did what you did with the plastic tip, used it as a perch but it was a bit wobble so one easy modification that their birds seemed to enjoy: We removed the cap on the very top, inserted a thick dowel rod into the pole; fit like a glove. Enlarged the cap screw hole and put that over the dowel snug against the roof peak so it keeps the rain out. Drilled holes in the top of the dowel and inserted smaller dowels for perches like an old TV antenna. Zip tied some perches to the underside and called it good.

Tom
Tom
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Kyler
Posts: 893
Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:15 pm
Location: Colby, Kansas
Martin Colony History: PMCA Member - Project MartinWatch - Enlarged Compartments - SREH - S&S Control - Mite Control - Predator Guards - Heat Control ( Vents and Insulation ) - Supplemental Feeding -

Manage 8 Colonies that consist of 250 Cavities in Colby Kansas.

Offer 78 Cavities Main Site
Offer 12 Cavities Golf Course
Offer 30 Cavities Grandpa’s Public Site
Offer 28 Cavities Grandpa’s Site
Offer 12 Cavities Homeowners Site
Offer 48 Cavities Homeowners Site
Offer 6 Cavities Home Site
Offer 36 Cavties Homeowners Site

Tom,
Yes my grandpa actually did that to the top. I’m planning on making a better one for this year. Probably use PVC.

Kyler,
Purple Martin Landlords of Northwest KS
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC9HDLGlbCmSYcSExIySwUQA

2013 & 2015 - 0 Pair -
2014 - 1 Pair - 4 Eggs - 3 Hatched - 3 Fledged -
2016 - 5 Pair - 27 Eggs - 24 Hatched - 13 Fledged -
2017 - 18 Pair - 102 Eggs - 78 Hatched - 69 Fledged -
2018 - 22 Pair - 115 Eggs - 92 Hatched - 86 Fledged -
2019 - 28 Pair - 144 Eggs - 131 Hatched - 125 Fledged -
2020 - 40 Pair - 190 Eggs - 133 Hatched - 111 Fledged So Far - (Bad Year! To Many Single SY Males)
MartinStudent
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Location: Mississippi

Hi there, Kyler!

Great job on modifying with the large caps for access. We're looking to modify our Heath house too and replace those brittle access doors. Can you tell me how you did the caps? I'm a newbie and am greatly interested in any and all things that help out PMs.

thank you in advance.
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MartinStudent
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Location: Mississippi

Hello Tom!
Forget the stupidity of this question. From a newbie, no PMs yet, first time and waiting to become a Landlord, how did you insulate the Heath roof? We're looking into modifying ours and would love to know.

thanks so much!
Animal Lover. Voice for animals. Purple Martin Landlord Wannabe. Proponent for large cavities. :grin:
flyin-lowe
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Many people will get a sheet of Styrofoam/insulation board from a hardware store and glue it to the "ceiling" of the house.
2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
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2016 1 pair fledged 4
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2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
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Anthony Neira
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Martin Colony History: Started in 1992 From neighbors old 1950-60's colonies. Have 8 Trio 6 Room Houses, 4 MPP Poles, 1 Heath Deluxe Gourd with Troyer Porch, 8 NatureLine Gourds with Troyer Porches, 5 Troyer Horizontals ,& 2 S&K 11" WITH Troyer Porches ready for 2019 Season !

Great Idea ! Kyler , would adding Tunnels make Too Much Room ? :???: :grin:
PMCA Member, 8 Trio 6 Room Houses, 1 Heath Deluxe Gourd with Troyer Porch, 8 NatureLine Gourds with Troyer Porches, 5 Troyer Horizontals + Tunnels, & 2 S&K Bo 11"s WITH Troyer Porches ! 4 MPPs, For 2019 Season !! :grin: Started in 1992 from Older '50-'60s Colonies.
C.C.Martins
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Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- didnt know anything about martins, put up an all wrong house in 2016 and had two come by and inspect all the cavities. Left soon after not to return. Learned what i could on PMCA, made adjustments and next year was sucessful.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged.
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged.
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
Home colony: mix natural gourds, house. All SREH.
Satelite colony Oso bay preserve: 12 gourds: PMCA excluder gourds, 6 room trio mino castle with enlarged compartments.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
PMCA member

Martinstudent,
sorry for the delay; and there are zero dumb questions here! welcome!! I used Reflectix Roll Insulation can get it at Lowes. I put the lid together separately, screwed it all together, sealed the panels for water tightness, and flipped it upside down. then cut the insulation to fit the underside panels, cut it to just where the lid and the upper compartment walls meet. I used the metallic silver duct tape to secure it to the aluminum and used a bit of liquid nails to keep it from bubbling up.
For the outer walls I have 1/4 inch foam board insulation on the inside to keep that heat out. it turned out very nice. I used threaded metal rods to hold the lid down to the upper porch, one on each corner. Just have to drill a small hole on the first porch and the lid so they line up and slide them in...the lid holds down beautifully. heres a picture of one side, you'll get the idea I think. the other is the whole thing before we put it up. the black circles on the caps are the round louvered vents...just taped over for the time being.
Tom
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