Question Re: Scout Reporting

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Dave Reynolds
Posts: 1921
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2018 Success at my Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2019 Success at my home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".

Louise ---- Thanks for your reply to MamaBruff's question.. Also Thanks for thinking about reconsidering the guide lines for reporting "Scouts" on the Scout Reporting Page. I think as others do, it may be a little out dated. Lets keep the "Wan-a-bees" in the system. They will be our new Landlords someday. :wink:

Dave
Home Site “Little Hocking, Ohio”
2010 / 2018 -- Lots of Visitors
2019 — 1 Pair, 5 Eggs, 5 Babies, 5 fledged. :wink:
2020 — 1 Pair, 4 Eggs, 4 Babies, 4 fledged. :wink:
2021 — Waiting on March 2021

Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”
2018 -- 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 38 Hatched and 36 Fledged :wink:
2019 — 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 99 Babies and 97 Fledged. :wink:
2020 — 30 Pair, 156 Eggs, 137 Babies and 137 Fledged. :wink:
2021 — Waiting on March 2021

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DornCounty
Posts: 2172
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:58 pm
Location: Rural SE Kansas
Martin Colony History: .
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Trio-Jedi

baileysambone wrote:Mary,
You are an active landlord. Just because they didn't return doesn't mean you are not active. You had a pair, they fledged young.
Submit the report.
Some people on this forum are way overboard.
You are an active landlord. Wishing and praying that you have many more pairs this year.
Have been watching the weathwer channel. Hope you are okay in Joplin
Yvonne
First off you need to relax a bit. I was quoting the rules posted within the report guidelines. No one was going overboard, it was an adult discussion. IT clearly states there that is it used for scientific study. No one is getting after or discouraging anyone. Bruff will get her martins this year.

Bruff it was April 24th when I go my first martin when I started.
2017 - Home & Public Colonies - 300 Cavities
baileysambone
Posts: 131
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:38 pm
Location: Louisiana/Baton Rouge

If this is an adult discussion, they why are you still carrying on about it ?
I think Louise clarified things for everyone.
Perhaps, you are the one who needs to relax a bit.
2011 visitors
2012 1 pair ASY male, SY female 9 eggs, 8 hatched, fledged 5
2013 5 pairs fledged 8
2014 4 pairs fledged 15
2015 7 pairs fledged 25
2016 10 pairs fledged 31
2017 17 pairs fledged 69
2018 18 pairs fledged 69
2019 21 pairs fledged 52 (biting gnats lost babies)
Vern1
Posts: 471
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:06 pm
Location: Pettytown, Texas, US of A

The scout map gives a good visual of migration patterns based on very limited reports.
Unfortunately, the information obtained and displayed is based on probably less than 5% of the Martin Landlords in the US reporting.
Cheers,
Joe
2015 - 40 cavities - 37 pair - fledged 172
2016 - 40 cavities - 38 pair - fledged 192
Hosting Purple Martins since 1976...Managing since 2006.
avesrun
Posts: 1113
Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:10 pm
Location: Iowa/West Des Moines
Martin Colony History: Home Site: 2017- 0
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
Satellite Site: 2017 (3rd season)
34 pair
Fledged- 102

Another suggestion I'll offer is that active/inactive landlords could take on reporting scouts for a previously unreported established site.
I gained permission from the course manager at a golf course that's about 2 mi from my home to "monitor" their pm houses. According to him, they've been putting out their houses for close to 50 years! They are completely old school with no winches or pulleys with all poles that can only be dropped in their entirety by removing hinge bolts. But they do host martins every season despite no s&s control or any other management. They have 4-5 houses that I'm going to try and determine exactly how many pairs are using this season. I've only been watching three of the houses the last two seasons but plan to find time to check on the other two as well this season. Unfortunately, they don't seem interested in upgrading equipment at this time. I also will be reporting my first scout observation at the location as well.
If anyone has a similar established yet unmanaged/unreported location near them I don't see why you couldn't drop by and introduce yourself to the landlord and ask them some backround on how many years they've been putting up housing and if they'd mind if you report their scouts, and if possible and confirm how many pairs they're hosting, watch for fledglings, etc.
TimG
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Home Site: 2012-15 visitors
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
2017-18 Zero
2019- 3 Successful Prs.!
Satellite Site: 2014 - visitors
2015 - 2 pair, fledged 9
2016 - 13 pair, fledged 44
2017 - 31 pair, fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair, 163 fledged
2019- 49 or. 219 fledged
Dave Reynolds
Posts: 1921
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
Martin Colony History: 2018 Success at my Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”.
2019 Success at my home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".

TimG ---
avesrun wrote:Another suggestion I'll offer is that active/inactive landlords could take on reporting scouts for a previously unreported established site.
I gained permission from the course manager at a golf course that's about 2 mi from my home to "monitor" their pm houses. According to him, they've been putting out their houses for close to 50 years! They are completely old school with no winches or pulleys with all poles that can only be dropped in their entirety by removing hinge bolts. But they do host martins every season despite no s&s control or any other management. They have 4-5 houses that I'm going to try and determine exactly how many pairs are using this season. I've only been watching three of the houses the last two seasons but plan to find time to check on the other two as well this season. Unfortunately, they don't seem interested in upgrading equipment at this time. I also will be reporting my first scout observation at the location as well.

If anyone has a similar established yet unmanaged/unreported location near them I don't see why you couldn't drop by and introduce yourself to the landlord and ask them some backround on how many years they've been putting up housing and if they'd mind if you report their scouts, and if possible and confirm how many pairs they're hosting, watch for fledglings, etc.
TimG
Thanks for your input Tim... You must have read my mind... I to have a Golf Course within two or three miles of me. The Manager allowed me to put up housing on the course, so I could help him get his Martin's count back up to what it used to be. After I put up my house he decided to replace two of his old beat up houses. Since the course has Martins and has had Martins for many years, I reported when the Scouts arrived.

Dave
Home Site “Little Hocking, Ohio”
2010 / 2018 -- Lots of Visitors
2019 — 1 Pair, 5 Eggs, 5 Babies, 5 fledged. :wink:
2020 — 1 Pair, 4 Eggs, 4 Babies, 4 fledged. :wink:
2021 — Waiting on March 2021

Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”
2018 -- 15 Pair, 58 Eggs, 38 Hatched and 36 Fledged :wink:
2019 — 26 Pair, 128 Eggs, 99 Babies and 97 Fledged. :wink:
2020 — 30 Pair, 156 Eggs, 137 Babies and 137 Fledged. :wink:
2021 — Waiting on March 2021

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avesrun
Posts: 1113
Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:10 pm
Location: Iowa/West Des Moines
Martin Colony History: Home Site: 2017- 0
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
Satellite Site: 2017 (3rd season)
34 pair
Fledged- 102

Dave we are in the same boat! I just spoke with the golf course owner again yesterday. He wants to to the same thing. Upgrade one system at a time. I have offered to do All the work; (except financing :-) it's pretty exciting. They have had housing for around 50 years! But have experienced a marked decline in martin numbers (no surprise). I'm meeting with him week after next to tour the course and check out all the housing and make plans.
Good luck your way.
Tim
PMCA Member
Home Site: 2012-15 visitors
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
2017-18 Zero
2019- 3 Successful Prs.!
Satellite Site: 2014 - visitors
2015 - 2 pair, fledged 9
2016 - 13 pair, fledged 44
2017 - 31 pair, fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair, 163 fledged
2019- 49 or. 219 fledged
DebA
Posts: 1941
Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 7:43 am
Location: Pratt County/Kansas
Martin Colony History: Start 2009 with one pair. Upgraded from S&K houses to two Trendsetter 12's with gourds beneath in 2013. I have experienced job, pet, and parental losses since '13. The Purple Martins lift my spirits and remind me how life continues forward by flying their little selves from Brazil back to my yard. As one forum person once told me, chin up DebA, look at the martins. Danger all around but yet they soar in the sky without a care in the world.

That's great, Tim and Dave. I am so glad they are upgrading. Nice work.
Deb
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Pratt County, Kansas
2016 34 PAIR
2015 27 PAIR
2014 23 PAIR
2013 13 PAIR
2012 6 PAIR
2011 4 PAIR
2010 2 PAIR
2009 1 PAIR
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