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Robert McCallum
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Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:34 pm
Location: Oklahoma/Tulsa

Please provide any help with most practical BB or pellet gun for sparrows.

Robert McCallum bob.mccallum@aol.com

Thanks for any help. Gave up on one I bought a couple of years ago for too much noise. Not so much a problem now.
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kehunter
Posts: 138
Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:42 am
Location: TX/Pearland

A pellet gun will be more accurate than a typical "BB" gun, so focus your search there.

Conventional spring-piston types are noisy, and might cause other potential targets to scatter after you shoot the first pest.

A "multi-pump" model can sometimes be useful for taking a low-power shot.

There are a number of modern "gas-spring" break-barrel models that are quiet and allow quick re-cocking for second and third shots.

Pre-charged models are excellent but expensive and require extra equipment for refilling.

Look for a model equipped with a scope mounting rail, or sold with a pre-fitted scope.
2016 - 6 cavities in Royal Wing/S&K house + 6 BO9 gourds with tunnels/porches on pole 1, 6 BO9 gourds with tunnels/porches on pole 2
2015 - new homebuilt 3 cavity house plus 3 BO9 gourds with tunnels porches on second pole, in addition to prior setup. 15 pairs, 54 fledged
2014 - 6 6x12 house cavities (plastic Royal Wing/S&K), plus 6 BO9 gourds with tunnels/porches offered; 12 pairs, 50 fledged
stevepk
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Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:45 pm
Location: IL/Pocahontas

Word of caution. Even BB and Pellet guns are a no no in most towns.
klcretired
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Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:06 am
Location: Grand Prairie,Tx

Hi Robert,
I use a Beeman S-1 w/scope very very accurate, I Highly Recommend this pellet rifle because of it's power & accuracy , Let me say this about BB /Pellet Guns I don't know about all the other states but here in Texas they are considered an "airgun" and if the police get a call about someone shooting a BB/Pellet Rifle the police won't even go out on that call unless their is damage to someone or someone's house , The Reason I know this is I have two brother's on The Dallas Police Force and a sister in Law on the Sheriff dept, Check with your local police dept to be sure
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Craig Dyer
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Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 2:24 pm
Location: Nevada, TX
Martin Colony History: Area is rural. Offer 28 compartments...metal housing (Lonestar Goliad) & Supergourds all w/crescent entrance holes. Purple martins are abundant here and eager for quality, well maintained, safe housing. Expect near 100% occupancy this season.

Hey Robert,
I also have a Beeman pellet rifle. It has a factory mounted scope and is very accurate. It wasn't cheap (approx. $400.00). In my opinion...as with many things, when it comes to pellet/BB guns, you get what you pay for. A $35.00 BB gun from Walmart will just end up creating a lot of holes in your martin housing, and laughter from the area house sparrows.
Craig Dyer
Mitch Booth
Posts: 480
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 - 17 pair

Hi Robert,

I've used several.

I had the standard inexpensive pump-up bb/pellet gun made by Crosman but the accuracy was not good but was silent.

I purchased a break-barrell (spring piston charged) and the gun had enormous recoil for a .22 caliber, extremely inaccurate and a pain to keep cocking. I would put shots into a dime size hole maybe 2 out of 10 times. It was an exhausting and frustrating gun to use.

I finally spent around $500 for the Benjamin Maurauder which is a Pre Charged Pneumatic or PCP. Yes you must buy the 3 stage pump enabling pressures of up to 3,000 lbs sq/in. The pump itself was around $170. As far as PCP prices go these guns are very expensive up to several thousand for competition models. The Benjamin Maurauder is one of the least expensive PCP's out on the market. It even holds a ten round clip so all you have to do is pull the bolt back and push it forward and it is ready to go. I can typically get around 40 rounds off before I have to hook up the bicycle style 3 stage pump to recharge the gun with around 2750 lbs per square inch of air. I would speak with the people at Pyramid Air who are very helpful. I can shoot 10/10 shots in a dime size hole at 30 yards. I've eliminated countless starlings and sparrows with extremely rare misses. I have 100% confidence when I pull the trigger I will be dead on!! I've had a few misses but this was due to not holding high enough over a railing and my pellet grazed the top of the banister.

I realize it's much more expensive than the standard pellet guns you can purchase at most stores but I was fed up with the inaccuracies and the house sparrows destroying my bluebird and tree swallow nests and eggs!

Hope this helps.

Mitch
2020 - 17 pair 77 eggs 69 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
Don Strickland
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Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:38 pm
Location: Oklahoma/Shady Point

I like the Marauder also. I have two of them. Quiet and fairly accurate. I have mine tuned at 30 yards and usually shoot a one inch group at that distance. I have some 1/2 inch groups but they aren't grouping where I am aiming. Still tuning on both guns at different distances. I have made kills at 40 and 50 yards but I don't count on that happening every time. I want to see mine give me some of the dime size groups like Mitch has. By the way Mitch, what pellet are you using. I use Crosman Premier hollow points and domes, 14.3 gr.
Don
Mitch Booth
Posts: 480
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:23 am
Location: Akron, OH
Martin Colony History: 2012 - 0
2013 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 2 fledged
2014 - 0
2015 - 1 pair, 5 died during week of rain
2016 - 0
2017 - 1 pair, 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2018 - 4 pair, 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2020 - 17 pair

Don,

I also use the Crosman premiere dome 14.3 grams. Keep in mind I have the gun securely fastened in a rifle test when I'm getting dime size groups at 30 yards. I took the hold error completely out of the question. I absolutely love this air rifle.

Mitch
2020 - 17 pair 77 eggs 69 fledged
2019 - 7 pair
2018 - 4 pair 19 eggs, 19 fledged
2017 - 1 pair 4 eggs, 4 fledged
2016 - 0 only visits
2015 - 1 pair 5 eggs, 5 hatched, 5 dead on days 6-7
2014 - 0 only visits
2013 - 1 pair 3 eggs, 2 hatched, 2 fledged
2012 - 0
Don Strickland
Posts: 430
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:38 pm
Location: Oklahoma/Shady Point

Ok. I need something to keep me steady too. I'm 72 and really shaky. I do use shooting bags to help me. Otherwise I probably couldn't hit an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper....I'll keep tweaking my scope to try and improve what I'm doing.
Don
Lhawk
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Joined: Fri May 28, 2004 10:23 am
Location: Tennesse,Memphis
Martin Colony History: Started tying in 2001 finally got 3 pair in 2003. Since then I had a steady increase to the 34 pair I now host in 2 Watersedge Suites 1 Trendsetter,and 12 plastic gourds.

Hi Robert,
Like some of the others have posted I too tried the cheap pump ups with very poor results. I finally broke down and bought a Hammerli 850. What a wonderful gun! It has a 8 shot magazine that you preload then just work the lever to chamber another pellet. It uses a 88 gram CO2 cylinder that will last about 200 shots. All in all I have been very pleased with this gun. Very quiet and very accurate.
Lee
Tenth year as a landlord. Started with 9 pair the second year housing was up ,2004. Now have 32 pair here in town, and 38 pair at the farm. Life is truly good
JR4-AL
Posts: 74
Joined: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:55 am
Location: Alabama

I concur. The Hammerli 850 is a sparrow and starling killing machine. It is the single most important article in my attempt to stop S/S. It requires no pumping, no continous reloading (8 shot clip) and is whisper quite compared to other pellet guns. It shoots pellets fast enough for a quick kill but not so fast as to continue through and beyond your target. This resulting in less damage to your martin housing and reducing (but not eliminating) potential danger to anything beyond your target. This gun is super accurate and is well worth the cost. I can not say enough good things about it for the use of S/S control.
2011...1 pair
2012...2 pair
2013...9 pair/40eggs/25fledged
2014..14 pair/70eggs/57fledged
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