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jr 2
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my 1 martin is still here sitting[now] in front of the compartment that was occupied first last year;;going too go find crickets;;I think best place is put them first on his porch or would you try flipping them????never done this before;help;jr2
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chickadee
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It eyed flipping. Did not work for me. But I gave up fast. Just because I put them on the porch and inside the gourd. That's what worked for me. Good luck. Weather here suspense to get to the sixths this week.
2008 first year 1 pair. 2009 3 pair. 2010 7 pair. 2011 20 pair . 2012 44 pair 280 eggs 210 fledged. 2013 67 pair. 2014?
jr 2
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thanks chickadee;;forecast here is for cold and 3 in. snow for 2 days them warm up;;;jr2
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GregB->AR
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This is the first year I ever felt a need to supplental feed. My early arrivers caught on to the cricket flipping by the 6th cricket launched. I will give a try later today if the rain stops to see if the others that have now shown up will do the same. I will really limit the cricket flipping even though it is fun to watch them catch crickets as I don't want to create "welfare" birds. I have a feeling though that they will just quit catching the crickets unless they are really hungry.
birdbrat
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When I first flipped crickets it took a few trys (less than a dozen). Every year since then I have had no trouble. That leads me to believe that my first bird has definately been here eating before, or else at another "flipping" colony. I have never tried putting cricket inside of compartment for fear of them getting knocked off or lost in the pine straw. Others have reported success using both methods, so I guess it is just personal taste. It is definately cold today so whatever you can do to get him to eat will help him survive. As far as creating welfare birds, trust me, once it warms up you cannot get them to eat. They much perfer a natural diet. Good Luck!
jr 2
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went too petco and got crickets and just throwed 8 or 10 in front[entry] compartmeni''[nest material is in back[separate] compartment;;nobody at petco heard of purple martin;;;I wasn't for sure what size cricket too get;;lady said they were medium size;;don't see my martin around now;;;;jr2
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birdbrat
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jr2, I hope he returns to find them. Did you kill the crickets first to keep them from escaping. I know a lot of folks may think that is a no brainer. But if you have never fed them before I thought it might be worth mentioning. Again, best of luck to you. The wind is brutal here right now and from the weather report, you are getting it worse than I am.
jr 2
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birbrat;think you are just west of me;the crickets I got were in a can[dead];;I didn't know which ones too get??????snow flurries coming down here and windy;;jr2
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pmlover
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just put straw in my houses I hope I don't see any for a couple of weeks good luck to all of u
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jr 2
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I inch of snow on the ground here just since 2 hours ago and still snowing;;this looks like the biggest flakes that I have seen all year;;still watching for my martin too return but haven't seen him;;hope he has found somewhere warm and out of the snow and wind;;;jr2
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birdbrat
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jr2, I am more northwest. Up past Chillicothe. A little burg called South Salem, known for its covered bridge, old academy and school, and of course the Queens half sister, buried in the South Salem cemetery. You can google it and find all kinds of interesting stuff. (of course it's more interesting to those of us who were born here). Hope your bird is staying warm somewhere too. In a couple days this little winter burst will be just a memory, then we can all look forward to more martins coming our way!
chickadee
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Jr2, can't believe you are going to get snow and have a Martin. I am glad that has not happen to me. With the warm up I will be surprised not to get a Martin by the end of the week. Me and a guy in my town always get one the same day every year. It's weird you can't tell me they don't travel together. And Greg, that is amazing only throwing them a few times and them catching on so fast. I must be doing something wrong. Do you have to get them way over their head or at eye level?
2008 first year 1 pair. 2009 3 pair. 2010 7 pair. 2011 20 pair . 2012 44 pair 280 eggs 210 fledged. 2013 67 pair. 2014?
jr 2
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birdbrat;i have been up 23 too coulmbus;;you are west of 23;;;I googled southsalem and didn,t know that about the queen;;it must be like Proctorville with 2 red lights because I had never heard of it;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; chickadee;;we now have about 2 or 3 inches and the snow seems too be lighter now;;;;can't believe this snow either;;I never seen my martin come back this evening;;hope it will be here in morning
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GregB->AR
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I shoot them over and in front of them a few feet so that they can watch it fly. I also make sure they have a clear flight path. That first day by cricket 3 you could see their heads following the crickets path. Shot 5 one of them fluffed up a bit to take off and on shot 6 it did take off and catch the cricket. From that point on it caught every one flipped and the second bird watching started catching them within the next few flips. I also make a noise before flipping so their attention goes to me. they have now learned to associate the noise with a cricket being launched. I have also started to use a slingshot and the birds, now about 14 of them, will fly overheaed and I will slingshot a cricket up into the air and they will catch it on a fly by. They seem to learn by watching each other. I fed them again today as it was cold and raining all day long and I got new arrivers yesterday evening. I am not sure all of them were catching crickets today, but they ate a lot of them regardless. I can tell when they are hungry as they will fly up to the top perches and then start looking down to watch what I am doing. I will feed them again in the morning, but hopefully warm weather will come back and they can fend for themselves.
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Greg,
Nice video, and what a lovely site!
~Mary B~

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jr 2
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greg;;thanks for the info and the video;suppose too warm up here;;;don't know what the neighbors would think with me trying too flip standing in 3 inch of snow!!!!!!!!!!!!jr2
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GregB->AR
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I was standing in about 2-3 inches of sleet shooting them crickets up in this video and in near freezing rain this afternoon as well and also in standing water from an all night and day rain. My neighbors already know I am a raving lunatic. This is considered normal behavior I would suppose. I would not want to disappoint them by doing much of anything resembling sane.
chickadee
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Greg, that video puts it in perspective. It looked and sounded pretty their. Are your martins hungry? Or just spoiled? Lol) I think times I have tried they must not have been hungry. I have 2 big ponds about 300 feet away. And a creek. Another pond few miles up the road. We'll water everywhere so I wonder if they go their and skim the tops of the water? Either way I don't chance it I always try. jr2, have you drug a cord and light bulb out to your house? Doing anything to keep him warm? I am going to try the light bulb in a house this year.
2008 first year 1 pair. 2009 3 pair. 2010 7 pair. 2011 20 pair . 2012 44 pair 280 eggs 210 fledged. 2013 67 pair. 2014?
GregB->AR
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This is the first year I have ever felt a need to supplemental feed any at all so I have not spoiled them. They showed up about 3 weeks too early. They should just now be arriving from this point on and they have started filtering in on queue now. I have about 14 now and expect over 100 unless bad things happened. I don't worry too much about them being cold, but starving is a real concern.
chickadee
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We'll you are doing a good job. That is a earlier return. I want mine to stick with coming the end of March,because even then we have cold days ahead still. And if you would spoil them it would be fine. My husband says I have bird fever right now. My head stuck up in the clouds. And that I go over board. I try to explain that my birds are to me like a old car is to him. Lol
2008 first year 1 pair. 2009 3 pair. 2010 7 pair. 2011 20 pair . 2012 44 pair 280 eggs 210 fledged. 2013 67 pair. 2014?
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