Global warming (real or bunk?)

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Emil Pampell-Tx
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This recent article makes me wonder whether predictions of global warming are for real, or could some theories be wrong. The following may help some people change their mind:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... again.html
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JL Murray

I'm a believer!

I'm just not sure what i believe in, Global Warming or Solar Cooling.

Both could be happening simultaneously.
DAVE
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I'm not sure of any of this stuff but I do know that after 1959 I couldn't Ice Skate on the Farm Pond.
Emil Pampell-Tx
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My opinion is that the scientists are not smart enough to make accurate predictions with such large influences as the sun and the oceans. I agree that man made pollution is there, but just how much effect does it have? I know that we set many records around our area with late season frosts, it never got so cold so late in the all the prior years since records were kept.
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Dick Sherry
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Emil, during various geologic periods the earth has at times been almost entirely covered by ice, and at other times there has been very little ice. The energy coming from the sun is not constant, the earth slighly wobbles on its axis, volcanic eruptions, and so many other factors have a bearing on what happens with climate. Mankind needs to do what is reaonable to minimize causing pollution of our air and water, but we may play a very small part in what happens to the global weather patterns. We need to individually learn more about the historic happenings on this amazing planet, and not get sucked in too strongly by the media and its shallow approach to any scientific subject matter.
James Rieman
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Old News. Here are great rebuttals. This article was originally published in Jan 2012. Dishonest cherry picking of the data, typical for the Daily Mail, so much so that the MET office issued a rebuttal!

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badas ... ZLuZcpNjYw

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badas ... ZLsi8pNjYw
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razman
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it's all BUNK.....come on, is man so arrogant that he believes he is responsible for climate change? AND can FIX it? talk about a God complex. the weather has changed DRAMATICALLY for thousands and even millions of years....now all of a sudden we are responsible for a one or two degree change in averages? use your noggin, and quit listening to politicians put a spin on things for their own agendas. JMO, Rick
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ChrisM
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Anyone remember the 9.+ earthquake in Chili several years ago..Some scientist thought the earth's axis shifted...that may be the answer to all of this unusual activity in the migration and weather issues. Just wondering....anyone?
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pear
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I think I'm onboard... Learned about it in elementary school. Started at the end of the "Ice Age". LOL what a crock.
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nbaum
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Whenever I hear talk about global warming I picture two cave men standing in Wisconsin watching the last Glacier retract and saying "it must be us doing it"!!! "You better stop making fires or pay me to allow you to".
cary-nw-fla
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There's a new book out called "cold sun", forget who the author is, but it talks about a coming cooling period which would affect crop production and world food supplies. Haven't had a chance to read it yet, but know I'm tired of hearing from one x-politician - lining his pockets while he flies around on his jet and buys real estate in calif that is suppose to be under water when the ice melts. It's about money, power ..... Bunk. I'll do what I can to recycle and conserve but .......
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I'm kind of suspicious when the advocates of man made global warming do two things...

1. Make lots and lots of money promoting "change"
2. All their "cures" in general involve policies they would welcome even if there was no pressing valid "need" to make them.

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Science is fact based. The theory needs to be proven. So when there is a consensus of scientist that say some thing is happening don't believe them. Science demands proof.

If a consensus of scientist told you the Earth was flat would you believe them? No you wouldn't because it has been proven that the world is round.

Scientist need to be careful not to loose all credibility with there profession.
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