shooting near martins

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rhinewalt
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Joined: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:36 am
Location: Morton/Mississippi

I have been shooting sparrows just wondering if anyone knows if this will affect my martins
rrmartins
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Location: Round Rock, TX

What are you shooting? Alot of us shoot rat birds and starlings all the time. This past Sat., I shot a starling off the house while martins were on it and they didn't budge.

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rhinewalt
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Location: Morton/Mississippi

using 20 guage shotgun with light load shells
Don Strickland
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Location: Oklahoma/Shady Point

They seem to tolerate pellet guns and .22 rifle. Don't know about a shotgun.
rrmartins
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Location: Round Rock, TX

You may want to sight in a good pellet gun or 22. I don't think I would be shooting a shotgun around them, maybe others will know for sure, but I would not do it.
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LarryMelcher/KY
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Location: Kentucky/Shepherdsville

I host public colonies. One at work, too. This past summer there was a LOT of construction going on. Loud bangs, noisy trucks... never bothered them. I think martins and native birds recognize areas where there are less Starlings and House Sparrows and they love it. As long as you know what you are doing.... not chancing harming any native birds, you should be fine. Native birds seem to flourish where the S&S has been thinned out. (to me, that is.)
I manage 2 public sites, and one at home, for a total of 172 cavities. Board Member / Non Profit PMCA.
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Sandy - NC
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Location: Rocky Mount, NC

They will tolerate a 12 gauge shotgun. I just wouldn't shoot it in their direction since you can't control the spread of the pellets. The shotgun noise won't bother them.
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ljd-kc
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Location: Kansas City, Mo.
Martin Colony History: Started my Colony in 2008 with 32 gourds and one ASY pair. As of 2017 I had 106 cavities with 106 pair.

I agree with Sandy, pattern size of a 12 guage is considerably larger than a single pellet or a 22, you should be very careful about shooting around them with a 12 guage. Not to say you can't....just be careful..

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~Ray~Gingerich
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Location: Delaware/Dover

I use a .20 gauge with modified choke, it's accurate and the shot pattern is good, not too narrow or wide, starlings seem to have a set distance where they think it's safe to sit back and laugh at you,but with the modified barrel and a good load they get a nasty surprise. Another thing I like about the 20 gauge is it's not as loud and less kick back than a 12 gauge, I've used it for years around the martins and they get used to it, but I still try to limit it's use when martins are present. Just don't use it around new visiting martins.
~Ray~ Gingerich
1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair, 2019 171pair
2020 233 pair
Scott D.- La
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Location: Louisiana

I shot a Starling one time off my gourd rack with my .22 rifle that was just sitting there acting like a Martin and surrounded by Martin's. The Starling was showing no aggression. When the Starling hit the ground the Martin's seemed very curious about what had happened as they dove down to look at the body and kind of seemed happy about it. The Martin's seem to know that I am not shooting at them be it .22 rifle or 12 gauge and act like it is just a normal thing, that crazy white dude does :)
~Ray~Gingerich
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Scott, I did the same thing , had a sparrow that wouldn't let me get within shot range so pulled my truck within range and shot the sparrow while martins were on the house. The martins talked about that one for a while. I used a CB.22 load so it wasn't very loud.
~Ray~ Gingerich
1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair, 2019 171pair
2020 233 pair
Dave Duit
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Location: Iowa / Nevada
Martin Colony History: In 2020, 60 pair with 285 fledged youngsters. 83 total cavities available, 58 Troyer Horizontal gourds and 4 modified deep trio metal house units, 1 fallout shelter, owl cages around all units. Martin educator and speaker. President and founder of the Iowa Purple Martin Organization. Please visit www.iamartin.org and join.

Just be careful that your aim is right on. There is a pattern or circle that your pellet may stray and hit a martin if near by.
Mite control, heat venting, predator protection and additional feeding during bad weather add up to success.
flyin-lowe
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Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

I shoot my 20 gage a lot around my matins. Never in there general direction but I am close when I shoot them. The first few times they fly off briefly but after a couple weeks they won't even leave the house. The only thing you need to worry about is your aim itself.
2020 Currently 42 nest, 110 babies, 64 eggs left to hatch(6-22-20) HOSP count-8
2019- 31 Pair over 100 fledged
2018- 15 pair last count 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair nested, 12 eggs total, fledged 10. 4 additional SY's stayed all summer but never paired/nested.
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles away, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair (11 that nested), 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair, 21 eggs, 16 hatched, 14 fledged.
tonyg
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Location: Olpe, KS
Martin Colony History: 22 year landlord, 14 at current residence..offering 9 racks and a homemade T-8 for 166 total cavities. 160 Pair in 2018 Racks consist of a Deluxe 12, AAA 16, Starburst 16, 2 K-18 Series, Super 24, 2 Gemini, Multi-purpose/two trio’s/4gourds and a T-8..Great hobby to be involved in..

I also use a 20ga. Doesn't bother my martins at all..sure lays out a starling though :lol:
22 year landlord..9 Rack Systems for 2018 and my home built T-8 for a total of 166 cavities..160 pair in 2018 ..SUPER COLONY!!! Love You Bev... Fan of those St. Louis Cardinals!!!!!
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