VERY EXCITING! EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING!!

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Gobbler T
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Guess who showed up Wednesday morning with an ASY female?
After four years, there he was, my determined ASY male with his girlfriend. I was about to leave for work & needed some tools from the shed. I'm thinking "I don't want to scare them off!" Guess who was late for work? :lol: I finally decided I had no choice. I went around the yard as far away as I could from them. I spooked them any way! They both flew but to my surprise circled and landed right back! When I was finished I walked almost right under them and they never moved.
My wife was home sick all day. She told me when I got home that they had been here on and off all day but there were three of them.
Just for S&G I went and turned on the dawnsong and within three min. there they were. They stayed here for two hours. 45 min before dark they went in his gourd of choice and settled down for the night ( so I thought) Right at dark I caught sight of them leaving :-( I have not been that disappointed since I started this venture.
Things like that make me want to throw in the towel.
Tony


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KathyF
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Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
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gobbler - Nooooooo, you can't throw in the towel NOW!!! Even after having 27 pair last year, when mine returned this year, they still didn't stay the night for the first 3 days. They would be here all day then leave in the evenings.

I don't think anyone knows where they go or what they're doing, but the point is - I bet in a few days you'll see them shooting in the cavities late one evening and they'll be there for sunrise the next morning. Since they just arrived they need to EAT, so you'll have to catch them early in the morning or late in the evening.

Keep the faith - you've worked too hard to give up just when it's within your reach!!! :grin: :wink:
"Sometimes", said Pooh, "the smallest things take up the most room in your heart."
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Peggy Riley
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Gobbler, there is a really good chance they came back as it was turning dark. Don't worry about scaring them off, they won't leave if they are picked your place. They will get used to you. They'll fly off and come right back.

Congratulations!

Peggy
Gobbler T
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Thanks for the thoughts,
He's been coming and going since March the 16th. He just showed up with her yesterday.
Now I'm not positive because I don't know what time of morning they come out of their houses, but it is possible that he stayed the night. I only for sure saw one of them leave because it was dark. I could hear him in the gourd vocalizing this morning about 30 min. after daylight. We had a pretty good storm here last night and it was raining a little this morning.

My point is I just don't understand how it can be this hard.

Most of you here know the joy of seeing your first bird. The first time one stays the night. When they find their first mate.Etc...... To be that elated and have your legs cut out from under you over and over, It's frustrating :!:
It' 11:45. They are outside right now dipping and diving and calling to each other, going in and out of the gourds.
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Peggy Riley
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Gobbler they are yours now so I'd not worry about them leaving at this point!
Peggy
Doug Martin - PA
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Location: Pennsylvania/Fombell
Martin Colony History: First pair in 2009 after 28 years of trying. 3 pairs 2010, 17 pairs 2011 and 35-45 pairs since. Many additional colonies are now springing up around mine in an area once completely void of Martins. I offer 50 compartments at my site consisting of primarily Excluder II gourds on Gemini racks. Also a wooden T-14. I utilize electric fence type predator guards on the base of the poles. Supplemental feeding is crucial in maintaining my colony. I platform feed throughout the season as needed. My site tends to be a stop over point for additional birds as they migrate further north.

Gobbler,

Do not worry, do not fret.
Your Martins are not leaving yet.

Your male will continue to try.
The female is just a little shy.

Soon she will sleep the night with him
And on your face will be a grin :)

What you describe also happened to me last year. Before they nested. Your OK. She didn't sleep in the gourd with him till nesting started.
Supplemental feeding plays a major role in western Pennsylvania. Finally got my 1st pair in 2009 after 28 years of effort. 3 pairs in 2010. 17 pairs in 2011. 35 pairs and 150 young in 2012 & 2013. Plus a new 22 pair colony right down the road from me.
Gobbler T
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Peggy,
I hope you are right, but how do you figure that they are mine now?
They've been staying somewhere since march.

rdfalk
Cute poem! I hope you both are right. I have never had one stay over night, unless he stayed last night and I didn't know it. I've never had a martin at my site at that time of day! I don't see how others here have waited 10, 15, 20, up to 25 years. I would be a nut!
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Doug Martin - PA
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Location: Pennsylvania/Fombell
Martin Colony History: First pair in 2009 after 28 years of trying. 3 pairs 2010, 17 pairs 2011 and 35-45 pairs since. Many additional colonies are now springing up around mine in an area once completely void of Martins. I offer 50 compartments at my site consisting of primarily Excluder II gourds on Gemini racks. Also a wooden T-14. I utilize electric fence type predator guards on the base of the poles. Supplemental feeding is crucial in maintaining my colony. I platform feed throughout the season as needed. My site tends to be a stop over point for additional birds as they migrate further north.

Gobbler,

You are right. After 20 years or so you start writing dumb poems.

Last year I noticed the male in the gourd before dawn with binoculars.
They do stay in nearby trees.

A very good sign is when they are there right after the sun comes up. The later they show in the AM the farther away they may be spending the night. Probably at a group roost.

You got to get up early to know what's going on.
Supplemental feeding plays a major role in western Pennsylvania. Finally got my 1st pair in 2009 after 28 years of effort. 3 pairs in 2010. 17 pairs in 2011. 35 pairs and 150 young in 2012 & 2013. Plus a new 22 pair colony right down the road from me.
jimnks
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Gobbler, they will be there dude, don't ever give up, it will happen, they will nest there!! Remember an old saying "It's always darkest right before dawn",or, I forget, is it "It's always darkest right before a storm" I'm just kidding it's the first one! That Rdfalk wrote a nice poem didn't he? I believe that will GIT ER DONE for you, good luck guy. Jimnks
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tonyg
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Location: Olpe, KS
Martin Colony History: 22 year landlord, 14 at current residence..offering 9 racks and a homemade T-8 for 166 total cavities. 160 Pair in 2018 Racks consist of a Deluxe 12, AAA 16, Starburst 16, 2 K-18 Series, Super 24, 2 Gemini, Multi-purpose/two trio’s/4gourds and a T-8..Great hobby to be involved in..

Don't give up Gobbler...they like guys named Tony..trust me, iv'e had'em for 12 years now..they will stay eventually....
Gobbler T
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Tony
I ain't givin up. I've got too much invested to give up now :lol: Both time and money (mostly time cause we po)

He did come by at 5:30pm Thursday. Just a swoop and a holler. I was discarding a sparrow I caught. However there were 5. Three down low and two pretty high up. I've never seen 5 at one time before. Here that is.

I just needed a place to vent.
Tony


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hang in there...It took me 4 years of playing the dawn song tape..starting it at 530 in the morn.. unless you hv a problem with housing or trees or something that the martins dont like..you will get them...and you will be glad you did....sometimes they are as funny as a pair of hamsters playing....good luck
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