Opinions on "crescent openings" for Gourds

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Opinions on "crescent openings" for Gourds

Postby jtrexer4 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:15 pm

I currently have gourds with excluder openings and modified excluders. I am buying new gourds and wondered what type of luck people have had crescent type openings in regards to excluding starlings and whether martins like them.

Also any comments on the Heath deluxe purple mart gourds would be beneficial

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Re: Opinions on "crescent openings" for Gourds

Postby Dave Duit » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:07 am

For gourds I stick with Conley 2 entrances. I have never had a starling breach this opening.
Mite control, heat venting, predator protection and additional feeding during bad weather add up to success.

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Re: Opinions on "crescent openings" for Gourds

Postby Louise Chambers » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:33 pm

I had starlings getting into crescents and conleys on gourds, switched to excluder IIs with good results.

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Re: Opinions on "crescent openings" for Gourds

Postby Dave Reynolds » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:45 am

..... When I started my Satellite Site, I could not be there all the time, so I put Conley 11 entrances on all the trio house doors (24) and the eight Toryer Horizontal gourds came with Conley 11 entrance ..... Two years of success... So far so good, I think the Martins like them..

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Re: Opinions on "crescent openings" for Gourds

Postby jtrexer4 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:46 pm

Thanks for the feedback

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Re: Opinions on "crescent openings" for Gourds

Postby mwren » Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:10 pm

I have tried just about all types of gourd openings, and I agree with the reccomendations you are getting for both Excluders and Conleys.

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Re: Opinions on "crescent openings" for Gourds

Postby Emil Pampell-Tx » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:48 pm

Please try using sideboards. They work on any kind of entrances. The sideboards completely stop starlings and wing entrapment. This recommendation was tested for 3years with 36 gourds and it stopped the starlings and wing entrapment.. I use rectangular openings, they stop the starlings when sideboards are used. The sideboards force the starlings to go straight into the opening, which completly stops them.
I tried this same thing on a test about 8 years ago, it worked then, but I didn't think it was so simple. All that you need to make a sideboard, is something that extends 1 in away from the entrance on ANY sreh to force the starling to straight in..
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Re: Opinions on "crescent openings" for Gourds

Postby John Miller » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:53 pm

Porch placement below the crescent also is a factor. At one-half inch, starlings may be able to use their legs to get leverage. Placed about 1/8 to no more than 1/4 inch below, martins can enter fairly easily but starlings find it more difficult. Flush is the most restrictive, but can be a little tough for martins until they learn to enter.

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Re: Opinions on "crescent openings" for Gourds

Postby TerryW » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:18 pm

I have always felt that a properly-sized crescent works as well as the more difficult to construct excluder, including the Conley, although nothing looks cooler than the excluder openings. Just looking at them makes a visitor think, "wow, this person really know his sxxx about martins! :lol:


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